Walk with God DC: My Notes SAT MORN

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  • ezekiel3
    ezekiel3

    see http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/75897/1.ashx for more comments

    Walk with God 2004 District Convention

    SATURDAY MORNING

    10:00 Symposium: Walking Progressively as Ministers

    Helping Those Who Speak Another Language OK, lets just say that it took 20 minutes to explain the 1 page of direction in the Good News Booklet. Some rousing statements heard here are ?Reaching people of all languages is a matter of prayer at world headquarters? and ?This is the largest educational campaign in history.?

    Watering and Cultivating the Interest Found Make return visits progressive. Demonstration shows JW reporting foreign language call on form and giving it to the secretary elder.

    Helping Multitudes Join Us in the Ministry Show Bible study (that?s a person for you non-JW speakers) how to go door-to-door. Stat: In 1914 5,000 total. Now 5,000 are baptized every week.

    11:10 Walking by Faith, Not by Sight Politicians have reputation of going back on their word. Jehovah keeps his word. Shun the feeling that the kingdom is far off. Do my activities show that I believe the end is near? Instant gratification and Moses. Would Moses have been known today if he had remained in Egypt? Also Esau: wanted bowl of soup now, instead of inheritance. Demonstration: Brother lamenting, ?I?ve lost sense of urgency. We used to be so active!? 2 Tim 4:10 Demas ?forsaken me? was not apostate or stopped loving Jehovah, still loved truth.

    11:30 Go On Walking as Jesus Christ Walked Elders not to hold grudges, example of Jesus and Peter. Elders are not to expect more then followers can bear. ?Trust in holy spirit to do the rest.? Do not abuse authority. (To all:) Do not let imperfections of others create critical spirit in us.

    11:50 Walking With Jehovah by Appointment (Baptism) Normally a classic rehash talk, the speaker gave a very interesting illustration this time? Salmon return to river of origin, swim upstream, like making decision to go against world by getting baptized. Fishermen use baited lures at river mouth while salmon are still feeding, like desire of flesh. Upstream anglers switch to ?spinners? and flashy lures, like desire of eyes. Bears catch salmon as they jump out of the water, like we can make a showy display and get caught by Satan. Salmon congregate in schools in shady parts of the stream, like we go to meetings. Salmon find the exact spot they were hatched, like we find the truth that preserves us. Like salmon spawn, this will produce everlasting life for you. (Don?t salmon also die after they spawn??) Total of 84 baptized, age range of 9 ? 83, about 75% were teenagers. I n a procedure change, the baptismal candidates sing the song with the rest and are ushered out after the session ends. The procession was applauded during the time it took for them to leave the floor (about 3 minutes).

  • blondie
    blondie

    (Don?t salmon also die after they spawn??) Good point, zeke!

    The WTS has singularly bad illustrations. First, elephants, dirty pennies, corpses, sheep that have to call out for the shepherd before he looks for them, and sisters compared to dogs, "bitches"?!

    Blondie

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    >Now 5,000 are baptized every week.

    Somebody already pointed out that it used to be more than 7,000 in 1997...

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Gosh, I gringed at the thought of so many teenagers getting baptized. I was 15 when I got dunked and I know for a fact I had no clue of the "importance" , or better yet the signifiance of it all.

    How on earth did you not get angry listening to all of that , or at least laughing at loud??? hehe

  • Joker10
    Joker10

    How many were in attendance?

  • blondie
    blondie

    1/3 more than were there Friday morning. Many JWs are not atttending on Fridays.

    km 1/00 p. 1 Will You Be There?

    Last year at some of the "God?s Prophetic Word" District Conventions, however, the attendance on Friday was substantially less than on Saturday and Sunday.

    km 12/99 p. 4 2000 "Doers of God?s Word" District Convention of Jehovah?s Witnesses

    By not attending the Friday district convention sessions. In some instances it has been noted that a large percentage of our brothers are missing the spiritual instruction and fellowship that the Friday sessions provide .

  • minimus
    minimus

    Isn't "world headquarters" just a "publishing house"?

  • VM44
    VM44
    Bears catch salmon as they jump out of the water, like we can make a showy display and get caught by Satan

    This is a really BAD illustration. Salmon exert themselfs tremendously to swim upstream against the flow of water. As they try make it up over the rocks, they sometimes fly into the air, not for showy display, no, but to try to make it to their destination! This is a very FORCED illustration! Very removed from reality!

    Blondie wrote:

    The WTS has singularly bad illustrations.

    Agreed!

    First, elephants, dirty pennies, corpses, sheep that have to call out for the shepherd before he looks for them, and sisters compared to dogs, "bitches"?!

    elephants??? What illustration did they use for elephants?

    Dirty pennies, I remember you wrote that an elder (CO?) used the illustration "What would Jesus pick up off the ground? A shiny quater? or a dirty penny?" Again, a poor illustration. How do we know what Jesus would have picked up? Perhaps both, or pehaps neither!

    "sheep calling out for the shepherd" hmmm.. don't recall when they used that one, in the publications? or was it in a talk?

    "sisters compared to dogs" ah, yes, someone posted that, in this convention even!, the illustration was that dogs obey because they have to, and wifes should obey their husbands because they want to.

    At least they didn't compare women to "hanks of hair and bags of bones", that would be too Rutherfordian!

    --VM44

  • VM44
    VM44

    Hi again blondie,

    corpses! (used for illustration)

    Egads!! What illustration was that? Sounds morbid!

    What sick, demented mind would think of using corpses in an illustration? oh, wait, it came from the Watchtower! OK, that explains it!

    --VM44

  • VM44
    VM44

    found blondies illustrations, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/74833/1.ashx

    This CO-inspired illustration ranks up there with comparing the rank and file to a baby elephant chained to a stake that is conditioned not to stray even when it gets big enough to pull the stake out of the ground or comparing non-JWs to corpses and that being married to one is like kissing a corpse or that God doesn't value little, dirty pennies just big, shiny quarters.

    didn't find the one about "sheep having to call out before the shepherd will look for them," that sounds very, very false in real life!

    --VM44

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