Annual meeting notes

Quandry

Don't know if this has been posted before. These are the annual meeting notes. Notice that although the FDS "not inspired" an "err" they are the channel of communication.

PM

2007 ANNUAL MEETING NOTES
Saturday October 06, 2007
Year text for 2008: Exodus 14:13 "Stand Firm and See the Salvation of Jehovah."

The opening talk by Brother Gerrit Lösch (GB) gave a brief bit of history of early organization and point emphasized was that Jesus Christ trusted the Faithful and Discreet Slave to carry on the dispensing of Bible truths and so should we.

Point made that charter of WTB&TS of Pennsylvania was to disseminate Bible truths. Faithful and Discreet Slave are not inspired so they are going to err. John 16:12 Jesus said process would be gradual. The first of Faithful and Discreet Slave did not know how many would make up the group until 96 CE. Work being done well without knowing that. Adjustments will be necessary but that does not mean that slave is not the means Jehovah is using. We are in a time of greater increasing of light the unveiling of which is gradual.

Country reports and invitation work experiences.

Geoff Jackson gave the talk on the year text. He asked “Are you ready for Jehovah’s Day?” He said this year’s text from Zechariah got us focused on fact we are living in the final part of the last days. This time is different in three ways.
Scope Jeremiah 25:31& 33.
Intensity Daniel 12:1.

Effectiveness 2Peter 3:10 & 12 and 1John 2:17.

Earth is mankind alienated from God

Heat is Jehovah’s anger

Hissing noises indicates speed, a rapid passing.

Jesus made comparison between Faithful and Discreet Slave and evil slave.

Apostates complain we are too eager. Glad we are eager for Jehovah’s rule even if we are wrong once in awhile. We are not sure of all the details but we know Jehovah is with us. Used illustration of the Israelites leaving Egypt. Went right to edge of promised land and Jah made them back track and camp. They seemed trapped at the Red Sea. From a human standpoint there was no way out. That is when He totally brought Pharaoh to his knees. At the time it made no sense to Israel but Jehovah knew exactly what he was doing.

We have Jehovah’s Day right ahead of us which teaches us four lessons.

Jehovah ready for any trial and problem.
Must obey regardless what is asked of us. We are so limited in perspective. Jah knows the whole picture. We can have total confidence.

Brother John Barr (GB) spoke on the illustrations Jesus used regarding the Kingdom (mustard grain, dragnet, etc.) Very detailed. We are to be busy in the work sowing our seed and we are to get the sense of Jesus illustrations.

Theodore Jarcz (GB) spoke Christ’s Presence and End of System
He used the illustration of a talk. The conclusion covers a period of time. The speaker sums up or draws audience to a decision or the like. Takes time. The end is when he walks off the platform.

Jesus presence includes taking power in 1914, dealing with opposers; all the features of the last days
including the ingathering of the chosen ones their deaths and resurrection. This means an extended period of time. Up to and including fulfillment of Revelation. Spiritual discernment necessary to be bright and clear to us which it is. Those without spiritual knowledge do not see the significance. WE DO! Some anointed will be alive when the tribulation begins. First vision in Revelation. 1914 until last of anointed dies and is resurrected.

Be resolved to be more urgent to keep on the watch. Prove ourselves ready for Jehovah, Jesus and our own welfare.

The "generation" is all the anointed as a class from 33 CE to the end of the world. In the context of Matt. 24:34 was Jesus talking to his followers. Other instances of generation often had clarifiers, such as "wicked generation", etc.

Bro. Barr stopped and said, "By the way, you'll be happy to know that there will be anointed on earth at the time of Armageddon".
DRAGNET: ALL the fish were thrown on the shore. Don't get excited about the large numbers at the Memorial. Maybe these are not all good fish.
MUSTARD SEED: Sows seed and then goes to bed. Remember, we sow the seed, Jehovah looks after it. Our role is to be regular in the service and to sow that seed.

LEAVEN hid in the dough. What made it rise? Jehovah did it.
At the beginning Brother Losch said, "We of the Governing body have not always had the right understanding. The Gov. Body is not inspired and neither are the publications. It is the Holy Spirit that helps us to find the correct understanding".
Starting February 2008 elders will be invited to attend The School for Congregation Elders. It will be a five day course and they will start with the Presiding Overseers first then work through the others. Will start with the English field.
Total in attendance at NY Bethels, Canada Bethel and New Jersey Assembly Hall was 14,937.

IP: RqZdZkRlrfG0K5UJ

AlphaOmega

THANK YOU

Cold Creek Swimmer

"We of the Governing body have not always had the right understanding. The Gov. Body is not inspired and neither are the publications. It is the Holy Spirit that helps us to find the correct understanding".

What a load of crap! They cannot make the statement that they are not inspired and then say that the spirit is directing them. The Holy Spirit must be lost with as many changes as they make. How can anyone believe this garbage? I get so frustrated when I think about how long I was duped and now my wife and kids still are stuck in that crap hole.

It seems so logical to me. I have made this statement many times on this board. For me, it is the most logical and obvious proof of their BS. You are either spirit directed or you are not. If the spirit is helping them, then the spirit gets it wrong all the time. Without the spirit guidance they are just a bunch of uneducated, home bible-schooled losers. The thing that is so frustrating is the way they use this supposed spirit guidance to force submission to an ideal created by them!

I have to stop now. I am getting too angry and may resort to violence on my laptop. Thank you for your time.

CCS

AlphaOmega

You are right ColdCreek...

INSPIRED = INSPIRITED.

How the hell can they say that the Spirit is "helping" them but they are not inspired ?

They make the Spirit sound like something that you take in doses when you need it... a bit like Lucozade !

oompa

What a great idea Quandry! Glad you posted this. I was wondering if these are your actual notes. eh?.....oompa

Awakened07

Sorry if I'm mixing up the English words here, but is this 'annual meeting' the same as a one-day assembly, that is held in all/most countries, for all JWs? 'Cause my parents have just been to a one-day assembly. Could that be it? The reason for my confusion is that some of the "theocratic English" words are unfamiliar to me. Thanks.

blondie

The WTS teaches that the marriage of the Lamb and the Bride starts just after the GT starts and Babylon the Great is destroyed. Will some of the bride class be on earth then rather than in heaven participating in the wedding?

*** w91 5/1 p. 23 Thrilling Visions That Strengthen Faith ***Surely, John is thrilled to witness the end of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, and to observe the joyous events that follow her destruction. (17:1–19:10) Drunk with the blood of holy ones, she is seen astride a scarlet-colored wild beast with seven heads and ten horns (the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations). Ah, but what devastation she suffers as the horns turn against her!

Heavenly voices are heard praising Jah for the destruction of Babylon the Great. And what thunderous praise heralds the marriage of the Lamb and his bride, the resurrected anointed ones!

*** w89 9/1 p. 21 par. 14 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium ***Very shortly, Babylon the Great will be removed from the earthly scene. Then, as Revelation 19:1-8 indicates, the Lamb’s marriage with his bride of the entire 144,000 will be consummated in the heavens,

*** w95 7/1 pp. 13-14 par. 19 Christian Witnesses With Heavenly Citizenship ***In another vision John hears faithful, resurrected, anointed Christians referred to as ‘the Lamb’s wife.’ What a warm picture this paints of the intimacy they will enjoy with Jesus and of their willing subjection to him! Picture the joy in heaven when the last of them finally receives his heavenly reward. Now, at last, "the marriage of the Lamb" can take place! That royal heavenly organization will then be complete.—Revelation 19:6-8.

*** w92 4/15 p. 17 par. 22 Jehovah’s Provision, the "Given Ones" ***Finally, after the demise of Babylon the Great, all 144,000 ‘sealed ones’ will be in heaven for the marriage of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:1-3; 19:1-8)

tijkmo

sounds like they are not even sure themselves tho they will never admit it.

oompa

Blondie, we just did a cut and paste on the Climax book, and this was studied recently:

***

rechap.19p.116par.9SealingtheIsraelofGod***

That seal then becomes a permanent mark. Evidently, when the four winds of tribulation are unleashed, all of spiritual Israel will have been sealed in finality, even though a few will still be alive in the flesh. (Matthew 24:13; Revelation 19:7) The entire membership will be complete!—Romans 11:25, 26.

I thought we had been saying this for awhile, at least since this in 1988. I did not do the cut and paste so dont know if this was updated. Doesn't this seem to conflict? Just what is the postion based on Climax?????

I just wanted to say position and climax in the same sentence.......oompa

AlphaOmega

DRAGNET: ALL the fish were thrown on the shore. Don't get excited about the large numbers at the Memorial. Maybe these are not all good fish.

Is this a hint that the Memorial PARTAKERS will be high in the figures that are due out... are just that the number in attendance is high, so don't get excited - there is still much work to do ?

Annual meeting notes

Share this