Combating Destructive Mind Control – Part III

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  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Quote from: Chapter 8, “How to Help”, pg 132

    ”If someone you know and love becomes a member of a destructive cult, you will probably find yourself facing one of the toughest situations of your life. In helping a person you love return to being himself, it’s easy to fall into mistakes that could make your job even harder. Yet, if you respond to the challenges in a planned, emotionally balanced way, the chances are good that your effort will be successful, and it will be a very rewarding and ultimately joyful experience. That, at least, is what I have seen time and time again in the families I’ve worked with as an exit-counselor.”

    WARNING: I will be expressing my opinions in this thread. I am not a therapist! I am just a person trying to learn how to help free the mind and Holy Spirit of a former friend, who was raised a devout JW from childhood (not birth), and other JWs. If you are a former JW, I would follow Steve Hassan’s advice and get therapy from a person who is knowledgeable/experienced with helping people exit an organization that uses mind control techniques.

    Continuation of ”Combatting Destructive Mind Control – Part I” which describes what is destructive mind control and how some organizations control individuals through mind control and Part II about Steve Hassan’s keys to combating mind control. In Part III I will try to use/adapt Steve Hassan’s theories/ideas to overcoming the challenges of helping born-in JWs.

    Quote from: Chapter 7, “Exit-Counseling: Freedom Without Coercion”, pg 121

    ”My approach rests on several core beliefs about people. One is that people need and want to grow. Life is ever-changing, and people inherently move in a direction that will support and encourage growth.

    It is important that people focus on the here-and-now. What has been done in the past is over. The focus should not be on what they “did wrong” or “didn’t do,” but on what they can do now. The past is useful only insofar as it provides information that may be valuable to the present

    It is also my observation and belief that people will always choose what they think is best for them at a given time. In my experience, people will always do what they believe is best for them on the basis of their information and experiences. The member permitted himself to be indoctrinated in the first place only because he believed that the group was a wonderful and that he had something to gain from it.

    I also believe that everyone is unique and every situation is different. Eash person has a special way of understanding and interacting with reality. Therefore, my approach is totally client-centered. I adjust to fit the client’s needs. I don’t expect him to fit to my needs. In my approach, the counselor’s job is to understand the person thoroughly – what he values, what he needs, what he wants, and how he thinks. I have to be able to step inside his head – in a way to “be him,” in order to understand and help him do what he wants to do. My approach depends on having faith that deep, deep down, even the most committed member of a mind control group wants out.

    Last, my approach is family –centered. When someone is recruited into a destructive cult, everyone he knows and loves is affected. Family members and friends are vital in most successful cases. They can be trained to be maximally effective whenever they communicate with the cult member. In this way emotional and personal leverage can be used to gain his cooperation”

    So what challenges are there for helping born-in JWs? I can think of at least the following four challenges to helping born-in JWs:
    1) Since most people grow significantly intellectually, emotionally, physically, and spiritually from birth to at least 25 years old, how do you discover the authentic personality of a born-in JW who has been exposed to JW indoctrination from birth?
    2) Are more family members JWs or non-JWs of the JW who you want to help? If most family members are JWs, how can unresolved family issues be resolved to help a JW break free of mind control?
    3) Steve Hassan believes that a family’s unconditional love is crucial for a successful intervention. Will you be able to find an ethical exit counselor to help you with an intervention of a born-in JW?
    4) If you are a born-in former JW, will you be able to afford to pay for your own therapy and for an intervention of a born-in JW family member or friend?

    Quote from: Chapter 7 – “Exit-Counseling: Freedom Without Coercion”, pg 122

    ”A family’s love is a much stronger force than the conditional love given by cult members and leaders. A family’s love supports one’s right to grow into an autonomous adult and make one’s own life decisions. A cult’s love attempts to keep a person forever as a dependent adolescent – threatening to be withdrawn if the person makes his own life decisions that differ from the leader’s orders. When family members learn how to interact effectively, they do a great deal to help the individual come away from the group. During the intervention, this factor often becomes crucial.”

    How would you help a JW family member or friend? If you have ideas that have worked for you, please share them with other people, because your ideas may inspire someone else. If I was a former JW, I would help another family member or friend who is a JW by doing the following:
    1) Get therapy for myself to address as many phobias that JWs can develop according to Steve Hassan’s list of 10 universal themes that dangerous cults use. My number one priority would be to maintain an emotionally, intellectually, physically, spiritually, financially balanced life for myself so that I could help others. How could I help someone else if I am emotionally and intellectually injured?
    2) Set a reasonable goal to achieve based on my personal resources and commitment, and the personal circumstances and family circumstances of the person who I want to help. Reasonable goals might be to have a closer relationship with that person or free their mind and the Holy Spirit inside of them. I do not feel that setting an initial goal for some else to help them fade from the WTBTS is very unreasonable, especially if they are a born-in. Also, do not expect instantaneous results and plan for a very long-term commitment of your resources and energy.
    3) Use Hassan’s Key #1 to build rapport and trust, which I will elaborate a little more in the next paragraph. Building rapport and trust is very, very important and very elusive!!
    4) Use Hassan’s Key #2 to use goal-oriented communication with the JW by being subtle and flexible, and use Hassan’s Keys #3, #5, #6, and #7. Use a modified Key #4 to discover who their authentic self would have been if they were not born a JW by asking them what do they enjoy doing, what non-JW activities make them happy, praising them when they act as an individual or make decisions that put family above the WTBTS, etc. Unless there is no other alternative, I would only use Hassan’s Key #8 after a JW expresses serious doubts about the WTBTS.
    5) Participate in forums like the JWSF and JWN to learn new ideas, and read other relationship self-help books to learn about ideas that could support my goal.
    6) In deference to atheist I am writing about praying to Our Father last instead of first. Every day I would pray to Our Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit to “help (name of JW) to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, instead of the teachings of the WTBTS everyday of their life for the rest of their life.” I have been praying like this for my former friend for the past 4 months. Since I believe in Our Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, it feels right to me to ask for their help.

    Quote from: Chapter 4 – “Understanding Mind Control”, pg 75

    My belief that God works through other people is based, in part, on one of my own experiences. After I had been out of the cult for over four years, I accidentally overheard my mother speaking to another person. She said, “And don’t tell Steven, but I was praying for a whole year that God should break his leg! I said dear God, don’t hurt him too much. Just enough so we can find him and rescue him.” I was amazed and asked my mother why she hadn’t told me this after so many years. She answered, “It’s not nice to pray that someone should hurt himself. I didn’t want you to be angry with me” I wasn’t. I thought back to what the emergency technicians told me as they were prying me out of the wreckage: “It’s a miracle you weren’t killed!”

    How would you build rapport and trust with a born-in JW? For me there are so many different variables to take into account: like did you recently stop believing in the WTBTS, are you df’ed, are you related, are you “Worldly” and the person you are trying to help is attracted to you, how often you see each other, etc. If you are married, I would encourage praying and reading the Bible a lot together, so that your spouse’s phobia about your changing beliefs towards the WTBTS does not mean that you no longer love her and want to divorce her. You may have to overcome similar phobias of JWs who are siblings, parents, and children. Sending pictures with loving notes to relatives about you having a good time and were thinking of them may over a long time help rebuild trust and rapport. For the past 6 months, I have been very sporadically communicating with/meeting my former friend, who is a devout JW. To build rapport and trust with my former friend, I have done the following:
    1) Give her genuine and honest praise about her actions or what she says that demonstrate her individuality or are contrary to WTBTS doctrines, and cause no harm to others.
    2) Ask her questions about what she likes to do, what non-JW things make her happy, how she feels about current events, or other situations. After we spend time together, ask her if she had fun and what did she like that we did to freeze an image in her mind that she does enjoy spending time with me and that I am a good person. Recently, I have noticed that my friend is trying to create images in her mind to deceive herself about my character to indoctrinate herself not to spend time with me.
    3) Encourage her to do activities that are fun and may make her miss a meeting.
    4) If she asks me for help to do something that would save her money/time and allow us to spend time together change my plans, if they are not too important, to help her.
    5) Always be genuine, honest, loving, caring, and positive when I am with my former friend.

    I am probably making mistakes trying to help my former friend, and ,hopefully: I am learning from my mistakes, I am not devoting too much time and energy to help her, I am continuing to live my life, and I will continue to share my experiences with others in the BibleStudent Blog.

    Will anyone share their personal experiences about freeing the mind and the Holy Spirit inside of a JW family member or friend, to inspire other former JWs or non-JWs to combat destructive mind control? Good-luck in helping yourself and others, and be an informed, conscientious consumer when selecting a therapist, exit counselor, and/or joining an organization. To locate resources about recovering from a mind control experience, I suggest starting your internet search at the Freedom of Mind Center website which is operated by Steve Hassan. As I learn of more useful websites/webpages to combat mind control, I plan to update this thread.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
    ABibleStudent (on the JWN) and BibleStudent (on the JWSF)

  • Knowsnothing
    Knowsnothing

    1) Since most people grow significantly intellectually, emotionally, physically, and spiritually from birth to at least 25 years old, how do you discover the authentic personality of a born-in JW who has been exposed to JW indoctrination from birth?

    Give them time to "discover themselves"? Understand where they are at that moment, such as belief in God, etc.

    2) Are more family members JWs or non-JWs of the JW who you want to help? If most family members are JWs, how can unresolved family issues be resolved to help a JW break free of mind control?

    IMO, the problem arrises when you are living with JWs. It might not matter how many you have in your family, its the ones you are most in contact with or have strong socio-economic ties that are troublesome. The JW may have to face a life without the believing family, something some find inconceivable(myself).

    3) Steve Hassan believes that a family’s unconditional love is crucial for a successful intervention. Will you be able to find an ethical exit counselor to help you with an intervention of a born-in JW?

    I think these types of situations require someone sort of becoming an exit counselor. Not a professional one by any means, but let's face, a stranger counseling you? Coming into your personal life?

    4) If you are a born-in former JW, will you be able to afford to pay for your own therapy and for an intervention of a born-in JW family member or friend?

    Naw. Again, you must become the exit counselor.

    I like your thread, but the odds and obstacles at times seem insurmountable. If a person wants to "stay in", regardless of any explanation you can give them, they will.

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    Hi Knowsomething thanks for thinking of another obstacle for helping born-ins: being financially dependent. I agree with you that most JWs will think that their challanges seem insurmountable. Forums such as the JWN are good places to learn new ideas to help Free the Mind and the Holy Spirit of JWs. I feel that all JWs have the power to participate in forums such as the JWN (while deleting the history of their browser), stop donating to the WTBTS, and anonymously emailing their JW friends/relatives about websites such as www.jwfacts.com and www.jehovahs-witness.net.

    Can you think of other ways to overcome challanges for JWs?

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    ABibleStudent

  • Maze
    Maze

    There's no such thing as “mind control.” From the average perspective, reality is a slippery slope. If there was overwhelming evidence for God or evolution, everyone would be squarely centered in the same belief system. This doesn't mean that evidence for God isn't accessible. Evidence for God is extended on an individual basis. But, to the average citizen, evidence for God is on a shaky foundation. The same can be said of evolution. That's why there's a vast array of beliefs out there. Just because you don't agree with Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean they're subjects of mind control. Your tactics will never be effective in trying to reach them.

    http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/04/brief-synopsis-of-steven-alan-hassan.html

    Steven Hassan's Cult Theories

    A brief synopsis of Steven Alan Hassan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hassan

    Mental health counselor, advocate of exit counseling, author of two books on the subject of "cults" and what he describes as their use of mind control, thought reform, and the psychology of influence in order to recruit and retain members.

    Himself a former member of the Unification Church, after spending one year assisting with involuntary deprogrammings, he developed what he describes as his own non-coercive methods for helping members of alleged cults to leave their groups, and developed therapeutic approaches for counseling former members in order to help them overcome the purported effects of cult membership.

    To anyone stuck on the fictitious thinking of Steven Hassan and the like minded: The only real "mind control" that can be spoken of was instituted during the Dark Ages as no one could teach anything outside what was official church doctrine without being subjected to capital punishment. The foretold Messiah as described in the Gospels never ordered anyone to be subjected to violence for any reason, especially for disagreeing with him on spiritual matters. Now, as for clergy control over a population whom they had once held in ignorance, threatening them with hellfire if they disagreed with church dogma, the negative connotations of mind control carry on into contemporary society as the hellfire doctrine is still taught in popular theology. As an act of a rational choice, many people have rejected manipulative teachings when they were presented with options. As an example, options began to unfold when On the Origin of Species by Charles Darwin was published in 1859.

    Steven Hassan simply made a personal decision about his own outlook on metaphysics and reality that worked for him. He doesn't necessarily subscribe to the facts of modern psychology. In the last two decades, psychologists and sociologists have abandoned theories like brainwashing and mind-control. They may believe that various less dramatic coercive psychological mechanisms could influence group members, but they've come to see conversion to a religious movement principally as an act of a rational choice. Most sociologists and scholars of religion have rejected the word "cult" altogether because of the negative connotations in mass culture and the broad scope of the word's definition confuses an author's intended meaning.

    Jehovah's Witnesses serve Jehovah with a spirit of obedience. It's all too convenient for those that are disobedient to substitute obedience with control by some human agency. Not in a country where we enjoy religious freedom. People choose the path that is before them.

    For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; and we are holding ourselves in readiness to inflict punishment for every disobedience, as soon as your own obedience has been fully carried out. 2 Corinthians 10:5-6

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent
    Maze - There's no such thing as “mind control.” From the average perspective, reality is a slippery slope.

    Hi Maze. I learned a long time ago that the "Truth is what you believe it to be." Just because you do not believe mind control exists does not mean it doesn't. In fact your post demonstrates a typical cult behavior of thought stopping. I do believe in mind control because I have seen many classic mind-control behaviors in my former friend, who is a devout JW. Reading Steve Hassan's book only confirmed what I already was aware of so that now I can quickly convey what I noticed in my friend and other JWs to other people, who are knowledgeable about mind control, using common terms to describe JWs' phobias and behaviors.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    ABibleStudent

  • Hoffnung
    Hoffnung

    Being in the process of helping my wife out of the society, using soft and gentle techniques, after going to the same process myself, I can truly say maze has no idea what he is writing about.

    If mind control does not exist or is not used by JW, why can a fomer JW not speak with a current JW about his current beliefs? Clearly one of the many proofs of mind control.

    Hoffnung

  • Essan
    Essan

    It's ironic that someone who is considered here to be the chief example of someone who is mind-controlled and someone whose actions are direct and explicit evidence for mind-control is the first person to claim mind control-doesn't exist.

    It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

    Maze, you can't tell us mind-control doesn't exist. We KNOW it does because most of hus have directly experienced it and the process of it being reversed. You have not escaped it nor had the process undone, so you don't know what you are talking about.

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