The Watchtower is trying bring back Ancient Israel

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  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Think about the conventions of old. They were long, brutal and completely dominated by men who considered themselves good speakers. Why did they feel they had a right to command everyone to gather to these conventions? Consider the April 2012 Kingdom Minstery for the answer:

    Our District Conventions
    —Powerful Testimony to the Truth

    1 Ancient Israelites gathered three times a
    year for seasonal festivals
    . Although only the
    males were required to attend, often entire
    families traveled to Jerusalem to enjoy these
    happy conventions. (Deut. 16:15, 16) Such
    events gave opportunity to reflect on and
    discuss important spiritual truths.
    What are
    some of these truths? One is that Jehovah is
    a generous, loving Provider. (Deut. 15:4, 5)
    Another is that he can be relied on for guidance
    and protection. (Deut. 32:9, 10) Israelites
    could also reflect on the fact that as a people
    for Jehovah’s name, they must properly
    reflect his righteousness.
    (Deut. 7:6, 11) Today
    our annual district conventions benefit
    us similarly.

    ^ This is incredibly eerie to me. The Watchtower treats their rank and file like they are from the ancient world. The festivals they are refering to are called the "Three Pilgrimage Festivals."

    The Three Pilgrimage Festivals, known as the Shalosh Regalim (???? ?????), are three major festivals in Judaism — Pesach (Passover), Shavuot (Weeks), and Sukkot (Tents or Booths) — when the Israelites living in ancient Israel and Judea would make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, as commanded by the Torah. In Jerusalem, they would participate in festivities and ritual worship in conjunction with the services of the kohanim ("priests") at the Temple in Jerusalem.

    After the destruction of the Second Temple and until the building of the Third Temple, the actual pilgrimage is no longer obligatory upon Jews, and no longer takes place on a national scale. During synagogue services the related passages describing the holiday being observed are read aloud from a Torah scroll on the Bimah (platform) used at the center of the synagogue services. During the Jewish holidays in modern-day Israel, many Jews living in or near Jerusalem make an effort to attend prayer services at the Western Wall "emulating" the ancient "pilgrimages" in some small fashion.

    Now notice how the Watchtower defines their annual conventions:

    Today our annual district conventions benefit us similarly. [similar to the Festival of Tabernacles]

    The Pilgrimage Festivals were a source of joy in part because they were a break from their normal lives which were not all that peachy. A "festival" is a gathering for a specific purpose, but it's supposed to be enjoyable, energetic and different from daily life. To compare packing a bunch of people into an auditorium for 6 hours while they listen to monologues is a direct insult to the word festival. There is little difference between a convention and a congregational meeting. A huge part of the festivals, along with ANY ancient festival, were huge feasts to look forward to. The conventions never had anything like that, and they eventually stopped serving food altogether. They even discourage you from going and getting a burger.

    I have realized that the Watchtower WANTS to be ancient Israel with a modern twist. The world calls them a restorationist group, but it should be speaking about restoring Ancient Israel, not early Christianity.

    -Sab

  • blondie
    blondie

    They have been doing it for years. There is no NT documentation for circuit assemblies and district conventions. Russell earlier and later Rutherford said in (1920) in the Millions Now Living ....that Abel, Abraham, Noah, Jacob, etc., were to be resurrected instantly as perfect men and were to rule on the earth from Jerusalem after Armageddon. They were called "ancient worthies."

    At the same time Rutherford taught that the "ancient worthies" would be resurrected as already perfect men and would rule in Jerusalem over the earthly part of the kingdom. Would they shuttle back and forth between Beth Sarim and Jerusalem?

    "Seventy jubilees of fifty years each would be a total of 3500 years. That period of time beginning 1575 before A.D. 1 of necessity would end in the fall of the year 1925, at which time the type ends and the great antitype must begin. What, then, should we expect to take place? The chief thing to be restored is the human race to life; and since other Scriptures definitely fix the fact that there will be a resurrection of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful ones of old, and that these will have the first favour, we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity and made the visible, legal representatives of the new order of things on earth." Millions Now Living Will Never Die p.88
    The Watchtower, February 15, 1925, page 57, "We know the work of restitution must come to the Jews first, and through them to the rest of the world. As the Scriptures state that Jerusalem is to be the capital of the world and that the ancient worthies are to be princes in all the earth, we are warranted in expecting that the kingdom work will begin at Jerusalem."
  • Flat_Accent
    Flat_Accent

    Trust WT to suck all the fun out of something. Though I suppose they get round the feasting thing with the 'fine spiritual banquet that Jehoopla has provided'. I always hated that saying. It got me thinking about food, and so waiting another 4 hours till lunch time became even more agonizing.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Not only are they trying to bring back ancient Israel thorough conventions, they are trying to emulate the social moral standards of that ancient

    very immoral civilization. Now hows that for social moral redundancy ?

  • Bella15
    Bella15

    Exactly ... they played music, they danced, they eat, they rejoiced as part of the worship ... being happy and loud was worship ...

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    At the same time Rutherford taught that the "ancient worthies" would be resurrected as already perfect men and would rule in Jerusalem over the earthly part of the kingdom. Would they shuttle back and forth between Beth Sarim and Jerusalem?

    I remember a while back Terry digging up a quote from Rutherford saying "he always wanted to command an army." This is also reminiscent of ancient Israel being an army led by Moses. Does anyone remember where that quote was? I seem to remember a court room transcript.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Exactly ... they played music, they danced, they eat, they rejoiced as part of the worship ... being happy and loud was worship ...

    With their level of organization they could have easily gathered musician's from around the district to perform at the conventions. It was all man worship in the end. Why do you think they need to hear you clapping for them all the time?

    -Sab

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Thinking about the dramas they have at conventions and you really start to see how much they are trying to emulate that ancient culture.

    I wonder why they don't act out the killing of children for being disobedient to their parents or the killing of people working on Sabbath

    or the rape and pillaging of other distant tribes, burnt animal sacrifices, slavery, the desecration and abuse of woman as bought for commodities.

    The list could go on endlessly on how cruel and disgusting that ancient civilization was, not to mention the embellished stories they told

    about their particular god of worship Yahweh. Thats where things get really disgusting.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    The list could go on endlessly on how cruel and disgusting that ancient civilization was, not to mention the embellished stories they told

    I actually place more blame on people who choose to emulate such a civilization in our modern world. For the ancient's it was the only way they knew how to create order. That doesn't make it right, but modern day people should know better than to emulate a 3000 year old society. They should.

    -Sab

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    but modern day people should know better than to emulate a 3000 year old society. They should.

    Totally agree Sab. The ancient civilizations had to deal with their own ignorance of the world they lived in,

    hence gods gave them the necessary and much needed answers, to not realize that or be in acceptance of that is being

    very disingenuous toward this known fact.

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