Seems the Watchtower is becoming more pushier / cult-ier...

by garyneal 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Did anyone have to endure the WT study today at the KH? I did and boy it was a doozy. Saying things like "Christendom deserved destruction for misleading people spiritually...." Talking about false prophets, etc..

    The irony of all of this is that their judgements on Christendom apply to them. What irony as they were talking about false prophets, I was in the KH library with my youngest daughter going through the book Harp of God. In particular, I was going over the section that still was teaching the old dates, 1799, 1874, and 1914. Giving chronolgies for the dates and the reasoning for them. It even spoke of 606 B.C.E being the year Jerusalem fell captive to Babylon. All the while the study article was using 607 B.C.E..

    I remember hearing one sister commenting on 607 and commenting on what happened that year. I said to my daughter, "Nothing, because the actual year is 587 B.C.E.."

    Others were commenting that anyone who is a part of Christendom's churches or even associates with Christendom's churches in any way will be destroyed along with the churches. Their library also had a copy of The Finished Mystery (in fact all 7 volumes in the series). Didn't it predict that this was suppose to happen in 1918? Well, I guess my wife won't be coming with us to a friend's church for movie nights on the lawn. Heaven forbid we be on the lawn watching a kids movie while the fire and brimstone rain from the sky.

    Now I know why my wife is getting more and more culty. I wonder how long this is going to last? This has got to be wreaking havoc on her psyche and frankly I am beginning to reach the point to where I do not want to attend even the occasional meetings with her anymore to show support. There's got to be a breaking point to this madness.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    I've got a stack of books here from the thirties that talk the same sort of trash about Christendom.

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  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Hmmmm....

    My independent thinking senses - er, I mean, "apostate" senses - are tingling....

    Maybe this article is the reason I've been having unnatural urges lately to attend one of the churches of Christendom...

    If I can get up that early, that is...

    Zid

  • garyneal
  • highdose
    highdose

    i havn't had to sit through one of those awful WT studies for three years! Whoopppee! Can't tell you what a relief it is every Sunday to be able to do what i want and not spend the better part of the morning bored stupid!

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    I'm going to have to do some research. The article also generalized that all churches of Christendom hate using God's name today. Saying that a letter was circulated amongst the Catholic bishops to remove it from all modern translations of the Bible.

    Gee, did these people not even consider that perhaps Jehovah was not the correct translation of the tettragrammaton?

    Funny thing is, not a single point they made concerning Christendom cited any references. Not a single one.

  • Listener
    Listener

    There was a strange article in a 2009 WT mag called 'A letter from the United States, A trip into the past' 12/1 page 8. It talked about how they visited an Amish group and called them a gentle people and shared many experiences with them, including a meal and finishes with

    Discussing all these questions—and many more—with spiritually-minded people who have their Bible in hand brings joy to our hearts.
    We now look back fondly on our trip into the past, which was so full of wonderful experiences. We hope and pray that these visits and conversations in Swiss German opened not only many doors but also many hearts to receive accurate knowledge of truth found in God’s Word, the Bible.

    Even though this group are part of Christendom they are mentioned as being 'spiritually minded' of course they don't recognize they have accurate knowledge (but if the light keeps getting brighter then who has).

    I wonder if the writer of this letter really feels from their heart that they will be destroyed for not accepting their religion also I wonder how your wife after reading such stories as they seem so two faced.

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    I've been living for thirty years in an apartment complex of over 100 units, scattered over 11 acres, taking up an oversized city block and then some. It is dominated almost entirely by Witnesses. One out of six are disfellowshipped; an accumulation of about 20-25 years average residency (people stay here a long time). Half are inactive.

    I've had neighbors run away from me in terror; look at me in disdain; speak about me as if I wasn't there, an elder once took a photograph of my car because its engine was smoking.

    I like to keep up with the latest Bitchtower psychosis, not out of mere morbid curiosity (I have plenty of that), but for self defense. They are the Fox News/Glenn Beck of religion.

    Time to go to sleep. Have pity on me.

    Villabolo

  • wobble
    wobble

    Dear Garyneal,

    I notice that in your opening post you ask whether you really should continue attending as "support" for your wife.

    That is quite salient, your use of that word, for indeed you are supporting her "culty" ways, re-inforcing them by attending.

    I know it is hard, perhaps impossible for you, to stop going at one go, but why not just now and then say "I really don't think I can face it today, because...." and point out a really culty thing they are going to "discuss".

    It may get through that you only attend because you love her and your daughter, and it may get through that it is a cult, whose teachings are un-supportable, especially by you.

    Good luck, whatever.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    If she wants you to go to her indoctrination sessions, then by all means, go ..... but ...... she should be prepared to answer any questions you have with honesty and integrity.

    Pick your questions seldom and pick them well. No nit-picking. Make her do the reading, the talking, and the explaining.

    E.g. If the WT makes a statement for the Catholics .... check it out in the Catholic Encyclopedia online and if the WT has been dishonest, encourage her to look it up and read it to you and explain it. Do this before you go to the meeting, so that you don't even have to say anything to get her to think about it again.

    Get your mags at jw.org as soon as they are available and peruse them for dishonesty or changing doctrine. I love that last one. Getting a SuperDub to commit to a belief that is contradicted in a study mag that they haven't picked up at the magazine counter yet is a lot of fun. If you can, propose the noo lite as if it is your idea, then get them to trash you to the max with all of the scriptural, grammatical, mathmatical reasons why you are wrong, stupid, gullible, lead astray by the Devil etc. Keep a straight face.

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