One brother claimed he was approached by the perpetrator as soon as he closed on the sale of a house or apartment and talked him into investing the $50,000 he had gotten from it.
StarTrekAngel
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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StarTrekAngel
There is another article on a different newspaper (el pais, which a recognized and respectable outlet) with a case that sounds too much like this one but with different numbers.
In this case it was one elder, who talked a bunch of other elders into an investment with huge returns. In this case they are talking of about 70 million euros, which is close to the 80 million the other case claims was kept in Swiss banks. In this case the money was also transfered to a swiss bank but they were actually paying back interest to the investors (about 2500 individual brothers invested) until the money flow stopped. One brother claims the instigator was traveling around congos looking for wealthy people. Some investors got money together with their family in upwards of 49,000 euros. Some of the numbers, regarding the number of elders and the sentence to those who got caught, match the case mentioned in this thread. Also, the fact that they only caught the secondary criminal but the mastermind is on the run (just like the first article on this thread)
http://ccaa.elpais.com/ccaa/2014/12/02/catalunya/1417547144_900562.html
This other one claims the mastermind was a witness but only 700 out of more than 2000 investors were witnesses
http://infocatolica.com/blog/infories.php/1412020641-juzgan-a-varios-testigos-de-j
In any case all these articles are no more than 2 months old. I guess we will hear more.
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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StarTrekAngel
I am on the same boat as you all but lets not make assumptions
Who said that all the donations had to come from Spain alone?
Who said that a handful of rich JW did not see this as a tax shelter? We can't take an average literally. It is just that, an average.
The actual news article says this started in 2001. The news article is also dated Jan 22. If we take the years into account when calculating the average, then you are now about 10,000 euros per year, per publisher. Still a high number, but much lower than previously estimated. Like I said, it is just an average.
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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StarTrekAngel
I have not seen a bloodless hospital but I have heard mention of something like it. I also heard, from a JW relative, that someone started a private school for witnesses, where evolution and other worldly sciences are not considered in the curriculum and where preparing kids for the meeting is part of the daily activities.
In either case, I would not doubt that the average witness would not hesitate to put up money for "such noble cause", real or not.
What is yet more exciting is, if the news gets confirmed and spread, what would be the WTBTS reaction. I would not put it past them that they would see how much of that money could have been theirs if some "sense" was talked into the brothers. That is, do not believe in this "bloodless hospitals", if you want to help, send us the money.
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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StarTrekAngel
Fourteen elders can easily come from on KH that hosts more than one large cong, but 1300 donors can not come from one place. I am assuming that people from their hall got talked into it and they talked their relatives and friends into it. -
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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StarTrekAngel
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Insistance on legal contracts
by StarTrekAngel injust asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.
there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".
this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.
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StarTrekAngel
Yeah, I had kind of figured that out even before I began coming to sites like this one. But there is a gap between a verbal agreement and a written one. -
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Insistance on legal contracts
by StarTrekAngel injust asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.
there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".
this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.
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StarTrekAngel
ok.. I just hope that one day they are not going to start demanding we sign a legal agreement in order to remain members or get baptized. -
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Insistance on legal contracts
by StarTrekAngel injust asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.
there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".
this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.
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StarTrekAngel
Just asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines. There was a WT study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that God made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts". This week's book study concentrated on the same thing. Not to start a conspiracy thread, but this smells funny to me. -
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Letter to BOE
by Gayle inchristian congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.
january 13, 2015. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
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StarTrekAngel
Anyone has a link to download a copy of the letter?