i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
Yes, Lot is certified "Righteous" in the new testament, after what all he did.
Job's multitude of servants get killed too, due to the bet.
And Big/Small J hurl down the devil to earth, after their great battle, as if there is little trouble here. Cant confine the devils to any farthest galaxies ? What a loving arrangement !
i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.
the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.
and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.
Hardly a few JWs know about the Lawsuits. Even if we bring it up to them, they refuse to believe and even if they come across such news, they take it as "Jah will handle this"
WT downfall is our wishful thinking. But I don't think it will happen any soon.
if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?
i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?
do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?
I heard from a JW sister that her unbelieving relative had bought her a piece of clothing from a christian charity and her dog was continuously barking. Once she got rid of it, it stopped barking. Very amusing to recollect that now.
if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?
i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?
do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?
I have not seen anyone reporting to elders about demon possessed persons. This whole demon casting is a misunderstanding or ignorance of mental or health Issues during ancient times.
Of course the WT advises its flock not to buy anything from Church Garage sales, to avoid demons, which is bronze age stupidity
i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.
he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.
i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.
Jehovah uses the Governments of Singapore, North Korea and Saudi Arabia to ban his kingdom work in those countries ?
Seems the Great GB only could discern that
we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.
they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.
the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.
Jesus cast out 7 demons out of his Close Associate Mary Magdalene.
Mark 16:9 "...he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils
Hence watch out and even count how many there are. May be useful to log in Field Service report
i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
Stillin
How dare you criticize God!
I am criticizing a fictional imagination that was created by ancient middle east tribes, which I too believed to be true once.
His wisdom is far surpassing to ours, so we should just keep our opinions to ourselves.
Yes, I can see God's wisdom that allowed a snake to talk and deceive the whole of mankind with so much of sufferings.
God's Wisdom is manifested by the terrible Earthquakes(Even one today), destructive tsunamis, Hurricanes, Floods, Landslides, volcanic eruptions, meteorite strikes... Do they
i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
Wow. How many Great comments over the weekend. Sorry I was travelling. I liked this most
Also this whole belief system that in his perfect justice (that we can't question or even understand according to the GB) all the 6000 plus years of human existence filled with so much injustice and suffering - that he still watches it all and lets it continue on to wait on humans to realize he has the right to rule. If I worked for a boss that let bad things continue over and over again to happen and did not take control of the workplace properly I would rightly conclude that this boss does not have the right to govern.
i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
God can become a raving maniac
Yes, the Bible has several incidents where the almighty becomes a Raving maniac. How come this is possible if he is the Epitome of love ? Losing patience and becoming angry on petty things are the worst of imperfections and yet the Almighty very often Succumbs to it.
Poor guy . I think there are no Anger Management classes in Heaven.
i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
In a personal discussion with an elder, I was told that BigJ would resurrect the (innocent) people that he himself killed like the first born of Egyptians, 70K killed due to Davids Census and so on.
Yes, And the ones like Sodom and Gomorroh wouldn't.
