Posts by BLWashington

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Family Lost- Dealing with the "Inevitable"

by BLWashington in

so... recently lost my favorite aunt, mother of my favorite cousin- she was a "witness" when she died.

inactive, but still a witness.

who lived with my witness mother and stepdad.

BLWashington

So... recently lost my favorite aunt, mother of my favorite cousin- she was a "Witness" when she died. Inactive, but still a Witness. Who lived with my Witness mother and stepdad. It hurt my heart not to be there for my cousin (not a witness)- but Trying to justify being in that situation was too difficult for me truthfully do and respect her memory. See, I'm not one of those awkward feeling, shy to be around JWs, hope they don't see me types... I'm the I've been away from this mess for almost 20 years, and I'm still ready to verbally destroy (and physically if it comes to it) if you try to challenge me about anything that you think you remotely think you know something about- but don't. So don't go there- types.

But recently, I had to come to a realization. That if I was to get the phone call or text that my mother or stepfather had passed away- I wouldn't fell ANYTHING! Like it's SAD! I picture myself getting the call, saying, wow- turning to my wife- and saying- Damn, my mother (or stepdad) is dead. And turning the channel back to the basketball game. I'm curious, has anyone else felt this way? Like this whole shunning has totally retro-graded my natural "human" emotion toward my own mother? wow...

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Do you remember your Baptism Talk?

by bildad in

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do you remember anything from your baptism talk or the brother who gave it?.

BLWashington

@ Jim_TX... don't you just love when JWs try to throw some ol righteous judgement at you?

It's funny becuase my mother condemned me to the throes of being on drugs (I don't think weed counts) and never ever having ANYTHING and that I will never be happy because I have 'left Jehovah'... let's just say... WRONG... lol

Man, circuit assembly... haven't been to one in 15years and for 8 years I lived 2 miles from the one in Illinois... go figure...

Nevergoingback class- I like that.

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Former Unbaptized Publisher, New Here

by GloomySunday in

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former unbaptized publisher, here.. i'm new to the forums and have hesitated for months to join this forum.

i was raised in a jw family, and was never baptized, because one of my parents didn't think i should be baptized early.. my mother became inactive, but i eventually went back for social contact, eventually starting a study.

i raised a few questions, only to find that the conductor would get irritated and defensive when my questions would get deeper into the topic.

BLWashington

Welcome Gloomy!

I am new here too...I am sometimes so JEALOUS of those who never "crossed over" and got baptized..

But the way I hear it now- the rhetoric has gotten fairly "evil" regarding even inactive JWs... good for you that you were able to make the separation.

BL

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Hi everyone !!!

by Durden in

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i am durden.. a teenager that is an unbaptized publisher and is trying to leave this damn cult !!!.

i have been lurking here for some time and i decided to start posting with this intro.. im from europe, both my parents are jw's, my parents are both teachers (math teachers).. my parents are "softcore" jw's, they accept all my questions and try to answer them.. i am trying to "convert" my dad (an elder which might complicate things), me and my dad recently had various discussions about the org ("discussions" on the good sense of the word).. we talked about jehovah in the nt, 1975, 1914, gb in 1st century, the cross, "new lights" ..., you know the usual stuff.. and all is going well i think, i think i can "convert" him until the end of summer.. i mean is a logical man, what can go wrong ?

man, when i found jwfacts it was like my world had collapsed, all thoses lies .... but its good now to have found the truth.

BLWashington

Wow... you are SO ahead of the curve... You aren't baptized and WHATEVER you do- DON'T DO IT! Delay, Make Excuses- and just say I'm just not ready yet...I have so may questions...I'll let you know when I'm ready. Go to COLLEGE!!! But the whole conversion thing... STOP for now- you need solid footing before you rock the boat.. and you don't want to take the chance that you're in it if it happens to rock too far. LIke some say, do NOT vent to current JWs, lest you find yourself a target of the "brothers" and wind up in that lil back room with your parents looking confused and dazed.,

Acquire some good upstanding non-JW friends that can become familiars with your parents... and finally- do NOT do anything that will set off a trigger- drugs, excessive "illicit" music. Red Flag things...

Good luck Buddy!

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Intro - First time Post- Ventilation (it's a good read actually)

by BLWashington in

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currently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.

i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .

i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.

BLWashington

Ooooh, I LIKE THAT! for NON-PROFIT organizations...

speaking of Non-Profit, I "heard" that the GB members live in quite nice accomodations- is this true?

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Intro - First time Post- Ventilation (it's a good read actually)

by BLWashington in

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currently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.

i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .

i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.

BLWashington

thanks for the welcome- I have been just plastered to this page for the last 24 hours. It's amazing to see the experiences and emotions that are experienced by so many people at the hands of this one thing. I can't think of any other religion (outside of the Amish) that has this painful of a track record. Some of this stuff is difficult to READ, let alone if someone had to listen to it.

Which reminds me: One of my friends had an idea- and i'd love to hear your feedback- considering some of our experiences.

A mammoth class action civil suit agains the WTS for a bevy of psychological afflictions that affect many EX JWs that have an effect on us YEARS after we leave the organization.

i don't really know if it would even be possible or successful- but what if ... a suit big enough to shut the whole thing down.

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Aliens: Vatican Prepared (Not WTS)

by metatron in

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http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm.

if you google 'vatican and aliens', you will find a number of references to vatican officials making positive remarks about extraterrestrials - including a few who outrightly assert that they exist.

in addition, the vatican is interested in observatory time used for locating earth-like planets.. in summary, it looks like they wish to be prepared, come what may.

BLWashington

I'm bout to use up my 10th post lol

Thanks for the welcome... I never knew boards like this existed! You know you hear "Apostates" as a kid and it's like something akin to the Chester the Molester/Kidnapper/Child Rapist/KKK member/Acid Rock Devil Worshipping/Drug Dealing Gangsta Rap - person. When I found out that it really was Ex-JW.. I was like wow... I been apostate since I was a teenager LMAO!!!

It's nice to be somewhere that people really can just ventilate about what is ailing them, to people that can understand what you're talkin about... almost like a counselling group lol

Be Back soon :D

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Stuff You Would Lose If You Went Back

by Nosferatu in

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so we know all the things the wts prevents us from doing, but that's much, much different than the stuff we've grown accustomed to.. for those who have been out for a number of years, what kind of things would end up being abandoned if you suddenly started going back to the kingdom hall?

you know, stuff that you now do on the nights you used to attend meetings, the things you own, the things you wear, etc..

BLWashington

My wife would divorce me if I went back- I know for a FACT that she would cut anchor and haul a-ess-ess because she knows what I went thru with that. Self respect also, because I can't imagine the equivalent of smooching the rectal orifice that issued me a brown sludge pie... that's what it would feel like. I LOVE , and I mean lovvvvvve porn....oh my god- love it... so no more of that- and i do smoke cigars and the occasional wrapped greenery...so that's gone...hmmmm

Music- unless it's a 'Kingdom Melody' it's out the window- so that's all of my rap music, new and old skool..all my Michael Jackson discography and such. Movie collection- mostly R-rated so gone, no more of my favorite comedians - and all that ^*%*%*&^(*&(& profanity.

I do go to church from time to time, because I LIKE IT! And it's engaging, and I get to actually sing - like really sing.. I was president of my choir for 4 years! Just moved and the church I attend here in TX is awesome, but I don't feel like Satan has impregnated me with his children when I don't go...

Nah... never happening- because I would never want my kids to think that should they opt-out of the JW life, that they would cease to be my kids... I'd sooner commit a felony.

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Intro - First time Post- Ventilation (it's a good read actually)

by BLWashington in

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currently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.

i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .

i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.

BLWashington

Thanks for the encouragement ... I had never gone onto a site like this one before..but had countless never-ending conversations about why I chose to leave the KH. I never knew that I was considered an apostate for having a difference of opinion, having a faith of my OWN, and having a personal relationship, non-interrupted by the Elders with God... Speaking of which- guess what I did? I went to CHURCH- and loved it!!!!

"I can't believe you did it- I am too scared to lose my family?" My question- why is that even an option for this 'organization'?

Fear Tactics? Threat of disowning? Who does that????

I was disfellowshipped because - a young lady that I knew (also a former Witness) was thrown out on the street for being pregnant- didn't have anywhere to go... and I told her she could live with me until her boyfriend, my friend- (also a former witness) got their apartment 3 weeks later. The elders told me that she was not my problem and that I had to put her out - if I wanted to stay in Jehovah's organization.... I looked at them and said...where is she supposed to go? They answered are you having sex with her? I said no...but she's living with you? Yes- she sleeps in my 2nd room. So where is she supposed to go? That's not your concern... So I'm supposed to put a pregnant teenager out on the street where ANYTHING could happen to her vs let her stay in the safety of my home until she can have a secure place to live- ... Wow. Do what you want- and I left.

THIS is what people don't know about! This is the kind of thing that happens in those backrooms- folks get DF'd for having scratchoff lottery tickets... but somebody is in the hall messing with kids, they don't get the proper authority involved... come on man....

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Aliens: Vatican Prepared (Not WTS)

by metatron in

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http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm.

if you google 'vatican and aliens', you will find a number of references to vatican officials making positive remarks about extraterrestrials - including a few who outrightly assert that they exist.

in addition, the vatican is interested in observatory time used for locating earth-like planets.. in summary, it looks like they wish to be prepared, come what may.

BLWashington

i LOVE this topic...

Ok, I don't believe everything I see on TV or read on the internet- BUT- it seems like all these Ancient Alien theorists are giddy as all you know what to be able to dialogue about what they've found, researched, uncovered, etc. Would it stand to reason that an all-powerful God would not just stop at humankind and it's imperfection to be making stuff? The technological improvements of human kind in the last 50-60 years has been GIGANTIC compared to prior to that... Why? Could it be that the "thoughts of God are above our thoughts" aka that God or whoever made us is just plain smarter than us?

I mean seriously- if an earlier century of man had seen an airplane in the sky- they would have called it a chariot of fire- why...because they didn't know what an airplane was. With that being said... there are countless artifacts and archaelogical finds that would support some sort of alien/extraterrestrial activity on this planet. If in fact, we were generated by a more advanced lifeform, the Annunaki or whatever... and they returned to "visit" - it would shake modern religion to its very core...

If in fact the Angels were lower level aliens who went up the chain to a higher level alien or a Chief Alien... what happens to the fundamental structure of all religion, when God is in effect, Superman?