what else has changed?.
during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.
i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.
Hi Kerry, wishing you much success in reaching the goals in your plans. Really you are wanting to go under deep cover, like a detective.
On the cop movies they show some people working undercover for a long time get very depressed. I’m sure I would be affected that way.
So just be aware and careful. A lot of stress in being different from your true self.
remember the spotlight movie?.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ae250e9e-8f1a-45bb-b757-47c0149cafb3.
as a kid mum told me usa was warned about the coming pearl harbor attack.. 9/11 and covid-19, history repeating.
Stories about how governments knew about attacks but just did nothing, have shocked folks for many years, like how they probably knew about the plans to hit Pearl Harbor. People seem to be more convinced of it nowdays, than they were in the 60s when I was told the story.
I was even more shocked as an adult, when I read about the attack on a village in England that the government knew was going to happen. They had deciphered the code from the Enigma machine. But, they didn't want the enemy to know that they had captured the machine; so the decision was made (by Churchill, so the story goes) not to warn the population at all. If they had evacuated, the secret would have been revealed. Oh well, it was for the greater good - they just had no choice.
It was an accumulation of those kinds of stories that kept me from ever believing that there was anything that the government "wouldn't" do. Many years ago i had a conversation with a lady who clerked in the video rental store, about the JFK assassination, and I said that there were many people who might have wanted him out of the way - even vice president Johnson. Well she got all pursed up and said, "I don't believe Mr. Johnson would ever do anything like that." She never had anything to say to me after that!
I thought, Any politician in government would get rid of an obstacle standing in the way of their money/power, as easily as stepping on a cockroach. They do and say and lie and kill people without turning a hair.
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
they are still requiring ppl with titles such as pioneer, elder, etc., to continue reporting time. Reckon how long before those pillars are deemed unnecessary, or the titles changed to something like Person Who Preaches About An Organization Because They Took A Notion To Do It.
note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.
a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.
the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.
I read a theory awhile back, that WT might be strongly motivated to get Tony stashed out of the way so he wouldn’t be readily available if CSA investigators wanted to see what he knows about Pennsylvania non-reporting elders/cover-ups, etc.
the twickenham post made me think of this.
i have a few jw family members on facebook and being summertime, their pics of the convention have shown up in my fb feed.
along with their comments about "i wished it would never end" or "what a glorious weekend".
We progressed from enjoying the gatherings in the beginning, to coping with constant stress, pressure, criticism, guilt and constipation. The things we did enjoy were taken away as the authoritarian control was expanded more every year- like walking around talking to friends and being introduced to friends of friends, was replaced by many bosses insisting that we get in our seats even tho the show wasn’t starting for a long time. What was THAT about, jeez. They really didn’t want people visiting at conventions, did they!
If I stopped to talk to a sister sitting by a contribution box, some guy with the gestapo would tell me i had to get away because i was distracting her! He probably had orders to do that in case i wanted to grab the box of money and run.
So much of being watched with suspicion instead of feeling welcome and free. So much judging, complaining, negativity, gossip, discouragement, despair of ever being good enough. I do not miss being told that the WT was more important than my own family responsibilities.
for the most of us, we have left the jws...and even though we are no longer jw, many of us are still interested in their beliefs, doctrines and practices as currently practiced.
i was trying to sort out in my mind why i still care about what they are doing.
i think the answer to that is a hope that something will develop in the jws that will wake up a lot of others, and selfishly, a lot of my friends.
When i first found this site i stayed on almost 24/7. Reading everything, commenting, getting feedback, rinse, repeat. So many hurtful things were going on that led to us quitting the meetings, and our family cracked apart; a bunch of stuff happened. No more "friends" to talk to from the KH, so i just conversated here on this forum. I know it was good for me and just exactly what I needed, because more than 10 years later, I'm much more free of the thoughts about the JW topic, for longer stretches.
My theory is that the mind-controls installed in our emotions, thinking processes and attitudes are so strongly rooted, that it takes a long time to heal down through many layers. Reading all the info, CoC, watching the Royal Commission, writing about my experiences, etc. - all helps to heal the damage from being in a mind-control cult. I realize my inner emotions are getting detached from it all, a little bit at a time, and I don't think that would have happened if I had just tried to forget.
many of you are aware of the ongoing battle over clergy exemption from reporting of child abuse.
the question is, are we in the field doing enough to push for what is right!?.
there are always multiple ways of looking at an issue, and the viewpoint advocated by the catholic church, the mormon church and the watchtower church is that the provision of confession without the fear of being turned in to police allows an abuser to seek help to stop his abuse.
Money is the priority. Organized religion can’t risk a glitch in their money-making machines. Also they don’t want to acknowledge that the secular authorities outrank them. WT for one, now doesn’t just want to represent God, they say they Are God.
So having to report crimes of course seems to them a loss of authority. The children suffering is just collateral damage.
original reddit post (removed).
I remember a middle-aged jw couple who were living and traveling in a nice rv, "sampling" the kh's to see if they wanted to settle down in this town or that. This was in the mid-1980s.
They bought a convenience store in our town, seemed to me fairly impulsively. The inventory included cigarettes, which they were selling along with everything. The elders came and told them they needed to quit selling cigarettes, and furthermore to that, they needed to be getting to the meetings! They were telling us they didn't know how they were going to attend meetings, as they didn't have anyone besides the two of them to run the store. So my husband and I and another couple volunteered to take turns minding the shop so they could get to meetings - for free, of course.
Steve and I hadn't been married long, we were not well-off and were living in a literal shack. We were getting by okay. We had no idea these people had paid cash for the store, or had $50,000 in the bank, as the woman let slip one day when she was talking to all of us - "...And can you imagine, all we have left in the bank is $50 thousand!"
I said, WOW, well I think you two will be okay.
happy birthday 2 me!!.
sunday is my 76th birthday and i know that you want to know how it "feels" to have outlived my usefulness, to have lost my natural beauty (being reduced to wrinkles and flab), and constantly walking into a room not knowing why i'm there.
you also are curious as to how i can continue to find a reason to live since none of my kids think my opinions have any possible value, most of my facebooks friends i wouldn't recognize if i tripped over them on my way into starbucks, and my monthly expenditure on bird treats exceeds u.s. spending on the military.
P.S. Terry,
Those birds you feed think you're very useful! :-)
happy birthday 2 me!!.
sunday is my 76th birthday and i know that you want to know how it "feels" to have outlived my usefulness, to have lost my natural beauty (being reduced to wrinkles and flab), and constantly walking into a room not knowing why i'm there.
you also are curious as to how i can continue to find a reason to live since none of my kids think my opinions have any possible value, most of my facebooks friends i wouldn't recognize if i tripped over them on my way into starbucks, and my monthly expenditure on bird treats exceeds u.s. spending on the military.
Happy Birthday to you♥ Wishing you plenty of sunshine and things to laugh about!!
Me and Steve spend a lot of moolah on bird food too. Also cat food in several bowls on the front porch twice a day for 3 strays/ferals.
I'm turning 70 next month and it seems surreal. But, I do my duty which is to entertain myself with books, movies and shows, and all the things most people think is hogwash.
Hope you are still riding your bike? Keep writing! I always enjoy seeing you in print.
