Posts by scotsman

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Witness Carts - A Vehicle for Significant Decline

by slimboyfat in

i was stalking to a jw today about her recent experience on the carts and with being a jw generally.

until this conversation i considered the carts as just an ineffective preaching method and a harmless waste of time.

but now i wonder if the effect of the carts might be to produce noticeable decline in jw numbers.

scotsman

slimboyfat
I reckon they've got more carts in Edinburgh than Glasgow. I've seen them at Waverley station, Charlotte Square, the Royal Mile, Nicholson Street and Bruntsfield.
In Glasgow I've only ever seen them on Great Western Road next to Oran Mor and under the cavernous highland man's umbrella at the central station.

I think they're reducing here: they've disappeared from Middle Meadow Walk and the roof of the Waverley Market, rare at the West End, sporadic on the Royal Mile and on St Andrew Sq: I've spent the last 2 days working on the latter and watched the JWs and the carts and there was zero interaction with the public. It looks mind numbing but at least they've topped up their tans this week.

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In the paradise JWs will have a standard uniform

by RodrigoGuerreiro in

anyone else notice this on the last video of the regional convention 2016?.

frame stills:.

conclusion: it seems that the paradise will not be only the end of wickedness but also the end of the jws typical cheap polyester suits :-p.

scotsman

burnedout
Looks like 'native/meek society' clothing from an episode of Star Trek TNG.

Had the same thought.

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In the paradise JWs will have a standard uniform

by RodrigoGuerreiro in

anyone else notice this on the last video of the regional convention 2016?.

frame stills:.

conclusion: it seems that the paradise will not be only the end of wickedness but also the end of the jws typical cheap polyester suits :-p.

scotsman

Access to cosmetics too. And why are they shaping their eyebrows?

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

jw
friends

homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

scotsman

Heavy sigh.

children raised as JWs are victims because they are being taught to be prejudiced. Not just of homosexuality but a whole host of other things. The JWs have a distorted view of a vast range of things beyond sexuality.

But this cartoon is about teaching prejudice against homosexuals, not adulterers, theives or gluttons. I'm not shocked by it, I've never said I was outraged, nor have I said it should be banned (I've not even waved my hands our flounced).

i stand by the statement that this is cartoon designed to instill prejudice against homosexuals in JW children and I think that's homophobic. I think the Bible's homophobic too.

I sincerely hope you will survive me thinking differently from you.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

jw
friends

homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

scotsman

Is homophobia a crime?

If the "video still sends out an unhealthy and distorted message about human sexuality" I'd say it is designed to incite prejudice. It's not a crime.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

You make a good point, I can and should be more active about such matters. But, as I said, I'm a biologist. Politicians get paid handsomely (c. £70,000pa in UK, basic pay!) to deal with such issues. It's their full-time job.

Politicians respond to voters, if you don't talk to them they don't have to do anything. If you're not actively doing anything LUHE, surely, by your own reasoning you are tolerating atrocities.

I find"being a biologist" a rather hilarious excuse for inaction.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

Being against such military action means having some tolerance

Is Pink News against military action?

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

jw
friends

homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

scotsman

I've never once said the video should be banned. I've just said its homophobic and it should be exposed as such.

Some people get quite hysterical and hand wavey over the use of the word homophobia.

Oxford Dictionaries definition

Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video

by turtleturtle in

jw
friends

homophobia (m-w.com):.

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.

scotsman

This non ex-JW thought it a cruel and damaging message:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/as-a-gay-child-of-fundamentalist-christians-i-was-horrified-by-the-new-jehovahs-witnesses-video-a7014916.html

Presumably he's over-reacting too.

I'm sorry that some of us have upset the hierarchy of criticisms that we're allowed to lob at the JWs, I'll climb back into my box ;-)

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

I'm in favour of military action against homophobic extremists.

So, you don't do anything active in support of LGBTQ communities that are victims of hatred or violence?

I haven't spoken out of turn here. It's called freedom of speech. I won't be intimidated by you or anyone else.

Apologies if you feel intimidated, that's not my intent. I'm trying to understand motivation and close interest in LGBTQ persecution.

What have been the outcomes of these campaigns/discussions?

Most of the time it has been awareness raising but with a growing number of out politicians it's becoming a lot easier.

isn't there a danger of progressives outliving their usefulness when they tolerate gay people being killed by homophobic extremists?

It's this I don't understand. Who are these progressives that are tolerating the murder of gay people? Lack of opinion pieces in Pink News does not equal with toleration, and they certainly cover news of it although it's almost always difficult to verify the truth: are the individuals murdered even gay or is that just an excuse? ISIS trade in women is also appalling, are there enough opinion pieces on that to satisfy you?