Posts by Windchaser

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

Windchaser

What remains is to live in the present. Build yourself a set of moral standards of your own choosing, guidelines you can live with, and then be true to them (be true to yourself). Enjoy the pleasurable things of a moment while they are occurring; don't stave them off for a future time. Learn to know yourself and come to love yourself; your are your only true companion on this journey. Even true friends come and go; only you will be accompany yourself to the end. Be good friends, then. And offer yourself advice, when you see yourself screwing up. And be willing to take it!

COMF, this is so worth repeating. Thank you.

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hi bill............. so...... you have the most qualified victims coming to your site........and you give them to attorneys who sue for only................ $ 50.000?.....................as in the case of heidi meyer............. and she has to go through hell ......"again"......and be ridiculed in court, and made to expose her most private sensitive issues on how she got molested........ for a lousey $50,000?............

bill, are you scratching the gov bodys back or something?

Windchaser

Edited, because I'm embarrassed that I agreed with him.

Edited by - Windchaser on 6 July 2002 1:5:10

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BILL BOWEN

by crawdad2 in

hi bill............. so...... you have the most qualified victims coming to your site........and you give them to attorneys who sue for only................ $ 50.000?.....................as in the case of heidi meyer............. and she has to go through hell ......"again"......and be ridiculed in court, and made to expose her most private sensitive issues on how she got molested........ for a lousey $50,000?............

bill, are you scratching the gov bodys back or something?

Windchaser

suing them for too much would destroy the organization.

The organization is destroying itself.

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

Windchaser

((((neyank)))) A kindred spirit! :)

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

Windchaser

Hi MoeJoJoJo, thanks for your question.

I wasn't raised a jw, but it found me when I was 21. Before then, I was a Methodist. When I was little, I played outside a lot. It was evident to me that everything in nature had been created. The beauty around me was like a written book from God.

I walked away from jws over four years ago. At first, I still believed it to be the truth and felt very guilty. But, I no longer had the desire to go to meetings, go out in service or be a jw in any way. I turned to the internet's search engine one day and typed in Jehovah. I tried reading the wtbts official website and it did nothing for me. I then turned to Beyond Jehovah's Witnesses and have posted there for a little over a year now. I learned a lot there and during this growing process, I came to realize that man-made religion isn't where God is. God has been with me since I was a little kid and I don't need imperfect religions to tell me about him.

When I think about God, there are two distinct things that I am sure of. That he has a great love for all his creation and that he wants us to be happy. I don't have any answers like religions do, but I know in my gut that he is going to take care of things eventually.

I guess this isn't very profound, but in a nutshell, it is how I believe.

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BILL BOWEN

by crawdad2 in

hi bill............. so...... you have the most qualified victims coming to your site........and you give them to attorneys who sue for only................ $ 50.000?.....................as in the case of heidi meyer............. and she has to go through hell ......"again"......and be ridiculed in court, and made to expose her most private sensitive issues on how she got molested........ for a lousey $50,000?............

bill, are you scratching the gov bodys back or something?

Windchaser

Crawdad, no amount of money can compensate for what these victims have been through or will go through in court. But, I think $50,000 will at least make a mark. Maybe some of the victims have the anger you do and they aren't in it for the money at all, and will go through the humiliation, just to see these assholes' heads roll. Maybe they aren't concerned about soaking the wtbts dry monetarily, like you are. The jw organization will get what it deserves. How can you feel that you are accomplishing anything by insulting Bill Bowen?

Edited by - Windchaser on 4 July 2002 8:59:15

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BILL BOWEN

by crawdad2 in

hi bill............. so...... you have the most qualified victims coming to your site........and you give them to attorneys who sue for only................ $ 50.000?.....................as in the case of heidi meyer............. and she has to go through hell ......"again"......and be ridiculed in court, and made to expose her most private sensitive issues on how she got molested........ for a lousey $50,000?............

bill, are you scratching the gov bodys back or something?

Windchaser

Hey, Crawdad, what's up?

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MikeMusto

by Windchaser in

i've been reading some of your posts, and am wondering are you miguel/chelito?

we parted ways on a sour note because you couldn't talk me into going back to being a jw.

i really enjoyed our chats, you were such a sweetie and, well, always made me feel good (except the jw thing).

Windchaser

Thanks for your response, Mike. Nice to meet you, anyway!

I will check it out, DB.

Edited by - Windchaser on 3 July 2002 16:59:28

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MikeMusto

by Windchaser in

i've been reading some of your posts, and am wondering are you miguel/chelito?

we parted ways on a sour note because you couldn't talk me into going back to being a jw.

i really enjoyed our chats, you were such a sweetie and, well, always made me feel good (except the jw thing).

Windchaser

I've been reading some of your posts, and am wondering are you Miguel/Chelito? We parted ways on a sour note because you couldn't talk me into going back to being a jw.

If it's you, HI! I really enjoyed our chats, you were such a sweetie and, well, always made me feel good (except the jw thing).

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What do JW's Do on the 4th?

by Double Edge in

jw
friends

pardon my ignorance, having never been a jw, but what do jw's do on the fourth since they don't believe in flag and country?

can they go to friend's bar-b-ques?

is it ok if they go to a parade or firework display?

Windchaser

Speaking of holidays, this always kinda irked me during the Christmas season, (especially when there were children around) :

If we were out at night, the jw adults would ooh and aah over all the pretty Christmas lights. I felt bad for these kids, who would have to give up all the joys of the season, but have to endure their parents enjoying the "pagan" decorations.