Simon, how could you, you have spoiled next season's episode for everyone
BTW great pic
wheelwithinwheel
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Why So Many Magazines?
by JH inwhy does the watchtower have to print so many different magazines every two weeks?
the truth is out since over 2000 years, and the truth didn't change since the time of jesus.
so why does the watchtower have to give us the latest version of the truth every 2 weeks?
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wheelwithinwheel
Keep one submissive group busy, reading the mindset, maintaining the WT mould on their heads, feeling superior and spiritual, exclaiming: Wasnt that a timely article in the latest Tower.
This in turn keeps the other less submissive group, who doesnt read all the mind control articles, in check, by making them feel guilty and inferior: Duh, no, I havent got around to that article yet, duh
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Blame Canada!!
by gsx1138 inmy wife and i are starting to look into moving out of the u.s. we are looking at both canada and australia but are leaning to canada.
keep in mind we are just starting to do research so we haven't delved too far in to the politics or locations in canada.
does anyone have any location suggestions?
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wheelwithinwheel
Experience what ACSOT describes. Visit Montreal. Tour the medical facilities. Don't worry about the French. People move to Montral who don't speak English or French. Enjoy this great city!
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Our Kids Feel Like Freaks
by Shakita ini was reading the february 15, 2003 wt which had an article on page 23 entitled "do not leave your child's heart to chance.
" on page 26 under the subheading "even from within the congregation.
" the wt overlords say: "although your teenage child appears to be in good spiritual health, inside he may be struggling with a divided heart.
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Memories
Morning services sitting at my desk while the others stood, saluted, sang etc. memory: a teacher decided to do Bible reading, Dad said I could participate brought my Bible (NWT) my turn to read everyone freaking out that my Bible was completely different from their Bibles. A little girl named Donna her mother sending her with the same Bible as me (NWT). Her being laughed at and called a Jehoboswitch too. Donna wasnt a Jehoboswitch.
Art class always telling the teacher that I couldnt draw that. Teacher had to propose a substitute Oh, you arent allowed to draw a Christmas tree with lights on it, then draw a fir tree with snow on it.
Music class not singing half the songs which were pagan or nationalistic or just wrong for no apparent reason memory: teacher behind me noticing I wasnt singing, grabbed me by the hair and pulled me back to his face demanding why I wasnt singing. Muttering some poor excuse and worrying for days after what was going to happen because of this incident.
Remembrance day: the longest minutes of my life, sitting while everyone else was standing at attention. memory: one year the teacher decided to send the 3 J.W kids to the principals office we had to take our desks and chairs out of the class and push them down the halls and then carry them down the stairways to the office then all the way back - everyone in the school had heard the racket and this incident became the student agenda for days.
Keeping all non-JW students (especially girls) at a distance, worried my parents would learn I was making worldly friends.
Gotta stop thinking about this, Im getting upset
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my dad died
by termite 35 indear everyone, my dad died suddenly and unexpectedly at the weekend.he did'nt turn up for a family dinner and my husband and i went to see if he was ok.he was dead.collapsed in his home.i can't stop shaking and i feel really sick.i've lost my mum and now my dad too.i wish i could sleep for months and wake when the pain has finished with me.
it hurts so much .sorry to bring everyone down-but i'm stressed at having to sort out his arrangements due to the autopsy and funeral etc and the house and my feelings.
; i just wanted to tell you all as my husband's gone for a walk and the children are asleep and i'm feeling scared about viewing his body, but i know i'll have to and i feel guilty for feeling like that.stupid thoughts racing through my mind at the moment-need to 'hear' a friendly voice .
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wheelwithinwheel
((((TERMITE))) VERY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR DAD PASSING.
WHEELS
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Blame Canada!!
by gsx1138 inmy wife and i are starting to look into moving out of the u.s. we are looking at both canada and australia but are leaning to canada.
keep in mind we are just starting to do research so we haven't delved too far in to the politics or locations in canada.
does anyone have any location suggestions?
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wheelwithinwheel
Taxes are high in Canada, lower in Alberta (no provincial tax) - re-visiting the States you will find your hard earned Canadian dollar won't go far. I personally prefer Montreal over Toronto (expensive housing) or Vancouver (rainy and expensive housing)
Visit Montreal before making any decisions
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Thank you for your replies!
by scaredyetresolved ini told my husband last week that i didn't plan on going to chats or forums.
we've been trying very hard to stay on neutral ground.
we began by just researching all the history of jws and turning to the publications published by the society, to either back the history we were reading, or to dispel it.
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Great to hear from you Scaredyetresolved
make no mistake da = df (read C of C)
I would have preferred to da but the Wt policy makes fading necessary
This is how we faded:
My wife stopped pioneering. My wife stopped going in service. I stopped pioneering. My wife stopped going to the b.s. I stepped down as an elder, saying I was uncomfortable giving talks and counsel with my wife doing spiritually poorly. I slowed to 1 hr./month. I stopped going to the book study. I stopped going in service. We started attending only Sunday. We started missing some Sundays. We stopped going Sundays. During all this time we werent bothered too much. The C.O called a few times, I told him it wasnt convenient to visit. He dropped in once. My wife was home. She let him in. That was a big mistake. Some day I will post the letter she wrote him and the e.b. afterwards. Since then he phoned again to meet with me. I told him no thanks! I had to go out for a walk (exercise ha-ha).
We played the hypocrites with the family (who didnt know the situation) until the C.O. blabbed, but it was just as well. The hypocrite thing was difficult. When it came down to a family discussion we just said we thought everyone present was pretty qualified to understand the Bible, maybe even as well as the G.B. and talked a little about 75, the king of the north and south, how it is possible to even think one could explain Rev. and Ezek etc. verse-by-verse when one has difficulty understanding a prophecy of Jesus (generation). Some time later when the family made some comments about some new point, we just said we dont know anything about it, we dont go anymore.
Were probably looked on as having been disillusioned by 1975 and fallen to materialism. We dont care because so far the elders havent bothered to revisit and the family still talks to us.
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I graduated from college today
by ChrisVance in.
at the age of 53 i graduated from arizona state university with a bachelor's in spanish.
when everyone stood for the national athem i felt a little guilty at first, but i soon got over it!
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Way to go Chris!!!!!
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I know how they do it!
by spec in.
alright it has only taken me 25 years but i have worked out how they get you to believe.. in all the publications they always present both sides of the story in a logical and often scientific way.
this makes you feel that you don't have to research further because you already know the other side.. the truth is they don't have the truth.
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They spew the rhetoric that reassures the reader that both sides of any question are being completely examined and weighed. Then they make sure to keep everyone busy enough studying ha!, and re-studying ha-ha!!, and underlining ha-ha-ha!!!, this holy crap to completely extinguish any further interest in research .
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Opinions/Advice needed
by joannadandy inok here is my deal.... for those of you who don't know already i have never been df'd or da'd.
i just quit going, and was never baptized.
(that will become relevant later).
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wheelwithinwheel
I think some JW feel, when you leave you leave J, but they also feel some rejection on the personal level. Ive talked to some JWs who have ignored me and after breaking the ice they are quite nice and seem relieved that I still want to talk to them. After the initial reintroduction they continue being friendly (hoping Ill go back? could be the reason). I cant say if you friend will fall into this category so if you go prepare yourself to be hurt. I still go to JW get togethers on occasion and some do totally ignore me, but I believe my presence reminds them Im still around and may get them thinking (duh). I definitely recommend the card and gift idea. Make the decision you will be comfortable with.