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I thought this chart was hilarious on how to pick your religion.
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https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1441&bih=654&q=how+to+pick+your+religion+chart&oq=how+to+pick+your+religion+chart&gs_l=img.3..0i24.3120.8903.0.9221.31.16.0.15.15.1.205.2058.5j10j1.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.4.img.syy2hmj5xae#imgrc=vvicewc0cwngfm%3a%3bdabhdbtixg5fam%3bhttp%253a%252f%252fcontemplatingtruth.files.wordpress.com%252f2011%252f05%252fchoosing-your-religion-flowchart.jpg%3bhttp%253a%252f%252fcontemplatingtruth.wordpress.com%252fbreaktime%252freligions%252f%3b2112%3b1248.
bare with me as i figure out how to post pictures.. i thought this chart was hilarious on how to pick your religion..
Bare with me as I figure out how to post pictures.
I thought this chart was hilarious on how to pick your religion.
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Jgnat: The sad reality is, what you say is probably what will happen to her. She will die alone because she has shunned her family and sacrificed us (us, meaning our relationship with her) to the alter of the WTBT$.
I've said many times that the reason why the elders give her a shepherding call twice a yr is because they want her estate when she dies. They will be getting 1/3 of her estate when she dies. Well after tonight WT will probably get more cuz she will disinherit my dad. He doesn't care about any of that.
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Village girl: Interesting point! I read something, I wish I could remember it was or find it again, but I read that a large percent of ex-dubs become Mormon. I have a friend who was raised a dub and she recently converted to being a Mormon and I asked her why, and she said because "their" beliefs make more sense to her, but some of the Mormon's beliefs are very close to JW beliefs. You know what I have a flow chart on how to pick your religion, I should post on here. it is just a joke, but it actually makes sense. I'll post it in a bit.
Sparlock: I'm thankful everyday to have my parents and husband. I see what this crazy cult does to people and families. I'm so glad it didn't take much for my hubby to wake up.
Xanthippe: You know that is an interesting point, it does sound like she is running scared. I'm just speculating, but maybe she has doubts but because she has nothing else, or knows no better, she is so busy with service and meetings, she is trying to squash the doubts? I actually just called my dad and shared this with him.
It's interesting I just remembered something. I think it was last year my grandmother was sick for about 3 weeks and she couldn't go to the meetings, she called my mom and told her "Since I haven't been to the meetings in 3 weeks I'm starting to feel like an apostate." I just brushed it off, but maybe she does have doubts. I hope she does!!!!
Pickler: OMG you have no idea how scary she is. My dad and uncle constantly say how afraid they are of her.
Since I just called dad, I also told him how everyone on here is praying/wishing luck for him. He was very touched and he goes "they don't even know me,"
I said: But the people on JWN know what you are trying to do and even though they don't know you, they still feel the pain of losing someone.
I'm thankful for your kind words and I passed them on to dad and he was very touched and I could tell he was choking back the emotions.
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
I hate to do a generic reply to everyone, but thank you for you words of support and encouragement. Tonight is the night, my dad is going over at 7pm, Mountain. I'm so dang nervous!
An update on my uncle, when he heard that all you need to be saved is believe is Jesus and believe in the ransom to be saved, he started crying. Whether you believe in God or not, I respect your beliefs, so I don't want to get into debate about that on this thread please. My uncle has always believed in God but since he left the WT, he has thought God was going to kill him. Now finding out how simple it is to be saved, he is ecstatic and he said he feels like a huge weight is off his shoulders. I think all of us felt that when we realized WT is not God.
Another interesting thing I heard from my dad. He had dinner with a long time JW friend last night and during dinner the friend made a few "comments" about WT and my dad point blank asked him if he knew about WT joining the UN and the friend just smiled and said "yes I do" So this long time friend of ours is an apostate! I nearly fell out of my chair! He said he is staying in to plant the seeds of doubts among the cong...the friend also said that there are about 4 people in his hall that are secret apostates. If the WT's only knew! I think it is great!!!!! I hope more people are waking up and realizing WT is a false prophet.
Thanks again for the comments
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good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Update, but not really.
So my dad said he called his mom this morning to see her while he's in town....her reply. "Oh I can't see you today (Saturday) I'm going in service...Tomorrow I have meeting, then service after, so I can't see you til 7 tomorrow night."
A while back she sent me a letter asking me why there is tension between us and I wrote her a long letter explaining everything and I told her basically that Jehovah wouldn't kill her if she missed one day of service to spend with family.....clearly my letter did nothing to reach her heart. I hate to say it but I'm suspecting she has a black heart.
I don't mind posting the letter if someone is interested :)
Hopefully my dad can talk to her this morning when he goes over to pick up some books.
Oh a bit of good news. My uncle, he was raised a JW but left around age 16 because he got in with the "wrong crowd" and did some things he's not proud of and he has said many times to us that he feels he has committed the unforgivable sin and he can never live up to "gods standards" A.K.A WT standards. My grandmother at one point when my uncle was going through some hard times she said "Well you know why your life is this terrible don't you? It's because you are not a witness" She told him that.
So my dad has been telling my uncle TTATT and he loves it! This is the first time in a long time my dad said my uncle has been giddy and laughing like a kid. I'm so happy my uncle is listening. But my uncle told my dad "If you are going too reach mom with this, you are going to have to slap her in the face with it, because you are only going to have one chance with it" Pretty much what we all have been saying.
If nothing else comes of this, at least my uncle now feels better and knows God will not kill him because he isn't a JW.
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
I will post something as soon as I hear. He's hoping to talk to her tomorrow. So I'm hoping by tomorrow night I will know how it went.
Keep your fingers crossed!!!!!!
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Just Lois: Sorry, I didn't mean to make you be on pins and kneedles too. I hope she will wake up too and I'm having hope she will. One thing is she HATES lying. ONe time when my dad was a teen, she just THOUGHT he was lying to her and threw a glass at his head. So he's going to approach and show her the lie the WTBT$ told about Jesus dying on a cross....if she bachs on that, he can use her hating lying against her if it comes to that.
One good thing in his favor, this entire time she has not had internet, she has avoided it like the plague. Just a few weeks ago she got internet so she can go onto JW dot org, so there is always hope she will find her way onto the "apostate" websites. She's not tech savvy, so there is hope on that too!
good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Thank you jgnat! Thank you for the positive vibes. He can use all the help he can get. I'm picturing David going against Goliath, but his mom being far worse LOL. My dad isn't scared of much, but he is of his mom. He made a comment other day. Before is mom became a JW she would read cards, I'm not sure if it was straight up Tarot cards or just regular cards and she was very good at it apparently, even after she became a JW she said she would still "see" the cards telling her thing. So my dad's comment the other day was "I don't think she ever got rid of her demon, I think she's still possessed." Not really but it was just funny because he was calling her demon possessed.
two that come to mind are.
my generation and.
won't get fooled again.
"Help" by the Beatles. I was listening to it this morning making breakfast and I almost started crying because I realize how their lyrics are how I've been feeling about waking up to the TTATT and the support I have found on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ApstMKNEMI
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good morning jwn-land.. since my parents and my husband and i have learned ttatt we have been keeping quiet, mostly.
we have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining jwn and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event.
my dad talking to his mother about ttatt.
Good morning JWN-Land.
Since my parents and my husband and I have learned TTATT we have been keeping quiet, mostly. We have held off on revealing our true names, my dad has held off joining JWN and telling his story because we have been waiting for one special event. My dad talking to his mother about TTATT. Well that time is here.
Here is the story. We live in a different state than my grandmother. She used to be Catholic, converted to JW in the 70's...she is in love with the JW's and even when we lived in the same town as her, and after we left the state, she has always sacrificed us, her family, for the WTBT$. Her and I have never had any kind of relationship because she has to spend every waking moment serving the WTBT$. She is very opinionated and most of the time she can't even listen to reason....
When the WTBT$ came out with the "New Light" about when the duel-world power came into power (June 15, 2012 Study WT, starting on page 14. Thanks Blondie! I found the article from one of your posts!) The WTBT$ basically said that they came into power in 1914, so my dad and his mom were talking about this and she asked him what he thought of the new light? My dad said he had figured that out years ago, and she was dumbfounded and asked him how he knew.
My dad then says "look at history. How could the USA and Britain be allies when in 1812 Britain is burning down the White House? I've known for years the Organization has been wrong about when they came into power"
His mom had a cow!
His mom: Oh don't say that! Never say they are wrong!
Dad: But mom, THEY ARE WRONG!!!!
So this is just a example of what she is like and this was right before my parents woke up to TTATT. My dad is on the way now to her state for a job and he is going to talk to her. With her, this is going to be his only chance to try and get through to her. She will either listen or call the elders to turn him in. I'm a nervous wreck, not because I'm scared of turning us into the elders, my husband and I have already said if they call us to a JC we are not going. But I'm a wreck because a small part of me is hoping and praying she will listen. She has already expressed doubts and questioning the GB saying they are the FDS now, so I'm hoping there is enough doubt there to get through to her. The sad reality though is I know the odds are against my dad because of the strong "LOVE" she has for the WTBT$. I just wish my grandfather was still alive because he would listen and realize what the WTBT$ is really about.
If anyone can get through to her it's my dad, once he starts posting on here you will see why.
We will keep you posted and let you know the outcome, but after this there are no more ties for us and we can finally be free of the WTBT$
P.S. My grandmother has basically been shunning us already, she is so busy she can't even call us. After 3 months of not hearing from her my mom finally called her to see if she was still alive and she just laughed it off saying "I've been so busy and I'm reg Aux pioneering now....etc" So if she officially shuns us, it's no big loss!.
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