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QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document
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a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

here is the document .

https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
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Quit Quietly now more than ever
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the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.

- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.

make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
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Retired Montana Supreme Court Justice writes regarding JW defense of sex offenders
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jim nelson's short 5 paragraph opinion piece in the helena independent record calls for a change to the law that allows perpetrating jehovahs witnesses to escape prosecution.

and the facilitators (watchtower in this case) to be held accountable.

https://helenair.com/opinion/columnists/religion-does-not-give-sexual-predators-a-pass/article_f22cf868-64b0-56c0-8028-6e690731adb3.amp.html.
Is your Religious Orientation Extrinsic, Intrinsic or Quest?
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religious orientation.

from wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

jump to navigationjump to searchan individual's or community's religious orientation involves presumptions about the existence and nature of god or gods, religious prescriptions about morality and communal and personal spirituality.
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Fading with Confidence
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abandoning a damaging cult is not a crime, in fact it might be viewed as a moral imperative given the levels of abuse awaiting those surrendering to its teachings and worse –its "ecclesiastic authority".. it has always seemed counter productive to inform potential enemies when your life´s goals now conflict with their rigid agendas.

disassociation letters and manifestos may be cathartic in the writing, but the outcome is a 100% certainty because of the inflexibility and lack of caring by the very group it is delivered to.. .

"fading" from under "high control" seems an oxymoronic risk at best, and currently faders walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders for years during and after the attempt - fearful that the price of their freedom will be the destruction of their friendships and family ties.. perhaps a peculiar additional preparation to a fade can reverse the balance of power – and high control cults are all about power.. .. bear in mind: - .
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Informing of judicial decisions - how is it accomplished in 2018?
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how do jws (rank and file) know when to commence shunning the victim of an internal judicial proceeding ?

what direction does the elders manual give to start the congregations participation in shunning?

when did you most recently see this process initiated in a hall you attend?.
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You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"
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the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .
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Should JWs perform immigration screening for jihadiis ?
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jehovah's witlesses worship and serve the same desert god as do all the worlds jihadists.

both these groups experience the same giddy delight contemplating the worldwide annihilation of infidels .

jihadists and jw's share the same wet dream of theocracy - the idea that public governance is best left to an invisible genocidal, misogynistic homophobic, sadistic, megalomaniacal bully...and his (male) earthly imitators.. jw's and jihadiis both covet their delusion of imagining themselves as the sole survivors of a global bloodbath - think of the stupendous irony there!.
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Canadian Bethel among the secretive charities
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http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/11/15/audit_of_charities_encounters_resistance.html.

interesting canadian information on popular charities.

regarding the "cushion" factor that mentions how many years these charities could continue to function without a single donation remember that the wt brranches download all proceeds directly to new york.. classic cult conduct in handling donated fundswith minimal transparency.
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''Re-examine all you have been told...dismiss what insults your soul.''
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this wonderful walt whitman quote is featured on a page of a fabulous website - www.journeyfree.org.

phd.

marlene winell posts great essays on the destruction and harm caused to those exposed to fundamentalist teaching and tactics, and more importantly, how to support those courageous enough to walk away from an entire worldview fabricated from false truths.. excellent informative reading from an intelligent articulate author .. your observations would be most welcome.