All I have to say about that, there is no way the day or hour can be exactly said, because when you look at the time zones of earth, there are 24 different hours(is that correct), and two different days at all times, or close to two different days going on at the same time, all depending on where you are at on this earth. I hope that made sense. At least that was how I always thought about that day and hour business.
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Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?
by KillerJones ini was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.
is this 'new light'?
from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.
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Tameria2001
For me it's been a mix blessing, but I remember reading somewhere that shunning is the worst thing one person can do to another psychologically. In my case, my husband left the JWs at the same time as I did, he wanted to leave it sooner, but waited till I was ready. But to this day neither his nor my parents or part of our siblings have any thing to do with us, but other relatives (and one of my sisters left it as well) have filled in that gap.
I remember when I was a JW, I knew a woman who's daughter was disfellowship, and she came to me for advise. In her daughter's case, she wanted to leave her abusive husband, so she went the route of cheating on him to get her divorce. She asked me what I would do if it was me, and I told her this from how I feel about things personally. I told her, if you want your daughter back, don't shun her. By showing her you care about her, and still love her, she would want to return. She took my advise, and it did make her son very angry with her about this, but her daughter did return. And later I found out it was because her mom did not cut off all contact with her.
Yes I remember them saying that shunning is merciful, so that they see the errors of their ways and want to return to the fold. But for me it's the total opposite, shunning shows the victim that those who are doing that DO NOT care about them, or their well being. In my case, those who are shunning me, and this is why I say it's a mix blessing is because all those people who are shunning me, are very toxic people, who made both my husband and myself very miserable. They are the reason why my husband started up the nasty habit of smoking. But that part is a whole story for another time.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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problemaddict 2, None of the other relatives (including the host) had no idea that this was even brought up by this one relative. With her, I'm not quite sure what to even say to her, because at the moment she's upset with us for something that was completely out of our control. She'll get over it though, because she and her nephew (my husband) is very close. They have more of a brother/sister relationship, because they are so close in age, and they grew up together. I'm going to let him handle it, because he will know the right things to say to her, and he will when he's ready.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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Heartafire, a few years before my husband and I left that cult, it was his brother who came over to our home, and informed us that we and our children would die at Armageddon. Now mind you, I was still going to the meetings, and going out in service (when I could find the time), and hadn't even thought about leaving. His wife, my own sister, the one I mentioned that was at the family reunion, she would always make stuff up about my family and I, just to make herself look good with our parents. In case it's a little confusing, but my husband's brother is married to my sister. When we left that cult, those were the type of people we left behind. It's been almost 16 years since I last saw those people, 16 years too soon in my book. I can only picture the outrageous stories she is going to spread after today.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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I just wanted to say thank you for all your replies. My family and I did attend the family reunion, and as the JW relatives had planned, showed up late, assuming that we would be gone by the time they arrived. One of them pulled my husband aside as asked for us to leave. My husband's reply to him was rolling his eyes, and said, "Yea, what ever. We'll leave when were good and ready, and not when you say so." There was an F bomb placed in there as well.
Anyways I did see the woman who use to be my biological sister there as well. But I made sure that I was totally ignoring her, I know that this would burn her to no end, because she was the one who is suppose to do the shunning. There was no love loss in the beginning, because I absolutely can not stand the site of her, even when back when I was still a JW.
The family reunion went off really well, and I got to see family members that I hadn't seen in years. I'm thinking that the relative that originally asked us to leave early in a message was only doing that, so to convince the JW relatives that we would not be there by the time they arrived. But it still ticked me off, her even bringing this up, but that's under the bridge now.
As far as doing any anti witnessing, I never had to do this, because most of the family (who are not JWs) have already seen first hand the ugly side to those people. Their actions towards us, back when we first left, acatually prevented several relatives from evening joining that cult. I did think it was pretty funny how my husband handled his brother though. He a very blunt man, and he doesn't care who he says it to, well except for me, because he doesn't want like seeing my red hair flair towards him. lol
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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Hello everyone, it's been quite a while since I was last on this forum. Originally I was under a different user name, but lost all that information when I moved to a different state. Anyways, I had left the JWs back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life. I don't know if they still use this term, but back then my husband and I sent in our dissociation letters. At the time I had done quite a bit of research to make sure I was making the right decision, after all quite a few of both my husband's and myself, our relatives are JWs. As a result of our decision, our children were able to grow up to be true to who they really are. They are both two well adjusted young men who are very happy with their lives, who haven't had to deal with the heartache of being cut off from their loved ones. They were quite young when we came to this decision. Those relatives are nothing but strangers to them.
Anyways, most of the time I'm perfectly fine, but there are times such as today, I feel that those PEOPLE love poking at wounds that have long since closed. At the moment it feels more like they are poking a bear with a stick, and me being the bear, a very grumpy bear, one that is just waking up from it's hibernation. Not to go into too much detail, but what is going on, we are having a family reunion. Most of those attending will be non-JWs, but they are jumping though hoops for the few JW relatives that are going to be there. I was informed just the day before this was to take place, that for a couple of hours of the reunion, we are allowed to be there, and then we have to leave. So the JW relatives won't throw a stink and make a big scene, like they did the last time. At the moment I'm in half a mind to not even bother, yet on the other hand I have always refused to play by their (JW) games.
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Funeral this Saturday, looking for suggestions
by Tameria2001 inmy husband will be going (unless he has to work) to his jw aunt's funeral this coming saturday (6-29-13).
he will be riding up with one of his other aunts (not a witness).
i refuse to go because i just hate those people that much, that if it were my mom's funeral i still would not go.
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My husband will be going (unless he has to work) to his JW aunt's funeral this coming Saturday (6-29-13). He will be riding up with one of his other aunts (not a witness). I refuse to go because I just hate those people that much, that if it were my mom's funeral I still would not go. He understands my reason for not going, and he is completely ok with it.
This will be his first JW funeral to attend since he left that cult, and there will be quite a few of his JW relatives there. Another aunt (also not a JW) told him that she has his back and that he can sit with her during the funeral, which will be held at the kingdom hall. I have read complete horror stories of those who were no longer JWs and their trials of dealing with the JWs, during their time of grief.
He is not quiet sure on what to expect, so I am asking for him to you all. He is looking for suggestion on what to do, or to even deal with "those" people. He was completely shocked this evening when his brother actually called him and told him about the funeral earlier this evening. He has not spoken to his brother in over 10 years. It was a short converation, just basically telling him the address of the congeration where the funeral is going to be at. Apparently they built a new kingdom hall three years ago.
If any respond to this post, he will be reading them. The only reason he does not ask himself, is that he does not deal with the internet, or typing at a keyboard. If he tried to type this out, it would take him nearly a whole day. Thank you, oh yes, my husband's name is David.
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I make a vow 2015 will be my last DC to attend ever !!!
by 5go ineven then it will be just be a sunday to see if the fall off come true, or not.. heck this year and next will probally just enough to make it look like i showed up for it.
thankfully i live around the city it's held in i so it's not a huge sacrafice..
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My very last convention was in 1994. I could not afford to go to anymore after that. That year my car broke down on the way home, and then some woman, who was not paying attention, backed into my car and wrecked it. I was also just to afraid to go on a trip after that. Now if someone says, about how that was a long time ago. Well a few years later I attempted to go on a trip that was out of town. Guess what, my truck broke down. The transmission went out, and again I was stranded. Never again will I ever go on a trip out of town.
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Smurf WArs
by snare&racket ingrowing up in the uk we didnt hear any stories about smurfs being demonic or evil etc, i watched the smurfs without a bad consciense.. what were the stories?
the rules and the reasons why?
how widespread was this crazy idea?.
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Snare&racket.... If it was not real and only in my mind, then why did they physically try to cause the vehicle I was in to crash? And in the case of the second time to actually crash. I was not the driver either.
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Smurf WArs
by snare&racket ingrowing up in the uk we didnt hear any stories about smurfs being demonic or evil etc, i watched the smurfs without a bad consciense.. what were the stories?
the rules and the reasons why?
how widespread was this crazy idea?.
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Snare&Racket....You asked me how many demons have I seen and interacted with, right off the top I can tell you that there were two different demons whom I have interacted with, and both times they tried to kill me. Where I saw them was in the the parking lots of two different kingdoms halls. My husband was driving both times, and I was in the front passenger seat. The first time was at a congeration in Missouri. It was on a Sunday morning, during one of their meetings. Outside in the parking lot I could see a whole host of demons dancing around in the parking lot around the cars. One happen to notice that I was looking straight at it, and faster than I could blink my eyes he was over next to my truck, grabbed the steering will and tried to cause an accident.
The second time, about 4 years later, was also in the parking lot of another congeration in Arkansas, but this time it was on a Saturday, and there were a few cars in the parking lot. Again I noticed this and again one of those creatures saw me looking at it. This time around it did something to my back wheel, and ripped out park of the rubber. It was enough to cause my husband to loose control over the Ford Bronco. We happened to slam into some barrels that was a barrer to a bridge.
Both time the things I saw looked like reptilian, with long skinny legs, arms, and fingers, and very ugly. The only reason I call them demons is that as soon as they saw me, besides doing what they did, they also vanished to where I could not see them.