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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  Thanks, Blues. You're quite right.

  Trot
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  Gee... what great ideas you all have. Thanks everyone. I was starting to panic as to what to do. I'll mull them over and let you know what happens between now and the holidays. Again, thanks.

  Trot
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  Danger when pumping gas

  by xenawarrior in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this on a news show last night and i had never heard anything about it before.

  since i'm up till all hours of the night, i don't know if it was a prime time news show or late night so i can't tell you the name of the program.. it seems that there is a danger when pumping gas when folks return to sit inside their vehicle etc., they may pick up static electricity and then when going back to the nozzle, a spark from that static electricity can cause an explosion.

  rubbing your feet on the carpeted mats or sliding across the seat to get into the glove compartment can all pick up static and then, if the gas nozzle is the next thing you touch, it could cause an explosion.

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  This is scary.

  I knew about cell phones. I didn't know about getting in and out of the car. I also work in a Port with petroleum tank ships all around. The Nation's largest petroleum tank farm is down the street. I don't want to hear about static electricity.

  Trot
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  Thanks, New Light and Concerned Mama. Will make notes of the books.

  The important thing to remember is to go SLOW with her, letting her tell you she is studying first, before you give her any books about JW's.

  Will do but very hard. It's like watching an execution in slow motion.

  Trot
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  Yerusalyim: I had planned on getting a newer revision of C of C that includes the UN scandal. Maybe this would be a good time to "loan" out my old copy to her (with a photocopy of the revised second on the UN inserted ). If I loaned it to her as opposed to giving it to her, she would have to keep it around for a while and maybe curiosity would get to her. She couldn't toss it because she would have to return it. I say this because if Alberta found out, she would tell her to trash it. It's a thought.

  NewLight2: Maybe I'll do what I did last year. I hand delivered Xmas cards to several neighbors instead of mailing them and sat and had a chat with each one. It was my first Xmas in 11 years so I was really enjoying the freedom. I've only been here about a year and a half so I don't all the neighbors yet. I hadn't had that many opportunities to speak to Mary at the time. I work and most of the neighbors around here are retired or on disability. Maybe this year, I should go to all my neighbors houses, including Mary's, and say a Xmas "Hi" with a little neighborly gift.

  Trot
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  Thanks, Twinkletoes. Sounds good.

  I was taught that if anyone tried to put me off studying, it was a sign of being "objects of hatred ..." etc. so you will have to tread carefully.

  WT protects themselves from all sides don't they. I really can't stand this Organization. As for Alberta? I know her. Guaranteed the only thing she has in mind is getting a bible study started. Bible studies and Baptisms (into the Organization) are her only goal in life and that's what irritates me. They pray on people. Vulnerability = Opportunity. The poor people have no idea what they are getting into.

  Blondie: Take my advice. Never start a statement off with a judgmental criticism; at least not with me. I had enough judging from the Organization to last a life time. Thank you for your input, however.

  Troucul: IMO that's not necessarily true. If you are in possession of information and/or experience, you owe it to others to share it (that's share it...not shove it down their throat). THEN if they decide to go ahead, that is their decision. My conscience is clear. I could not sleep at night if Mary's granddaughter became a Silentlamb when I had knowledge of the pedophile problem in the Organization and did not share it.

  Trot

  P.S. Edited for comment to Troucul.

  Edited by - Trotafox on 17 November 2002 18:24:58
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  I would say that she has shown more outward concern for this neighbor so far.

  Well, Blondie, that sure was a judgmental statement, especially, since you don't know any of my circumstances which I'm not going to blab all over this board. There's helping neighbors sincerely and then there's helping neighbors with ulterior motives in mind. Take your judgments somewhere else if you don't mind!

  Noidea : Thank you for the input. She does decorate her house for Halloween, Christmas, etc. It will be interesting to see how she responds to the "no holidays" rule.

  Trot

  Edited by - Trotafox on 17 November 2002 16:25:13
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  Help! Neighbor starting a study

  by Trotafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am so furious.

  the very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies.

  i watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them i'm sure).

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  I am so furious. The very zealous elderly pioneer sister who lives across the street (Alberta) has been canvassing the neighborhood for studies. I watch her walk up and down the street and being very friendly and helpful with her neighbors (all the while preaching to them I'm sure). Our community is an over 55 community with many widowed elderly people (mostly Jewish or Italian Catholic).

  I just now saw Alberta walk into the neighbor's house (Mary) with a young woman (most likely another sister) accompanied by a little girl about 8 yrs old (the sister's daughter?). They had book bags in hand. They went inside and were there for about a hour. An obvious Bible Study. Mary is a single woman who takes care of her granddaughter frequently. Can you guess what's happening here. Alberta brings along a sister to the Bible Study who just so happens to have a daughter the same age as Mary's granddaughter. I can see the love bombing going on now and the net out! Next will come the meetings and all the "friends?" and all kinds of little people for her granddaughter to play with. I can see it now. All the while filling their heads with twisted scripture and programming.

  What Mary doesn't know that if she allows herself to be sucked into this Organization, she will also be zealous about bringing her granddaughter into it also. If both get baptized and if Mary or the daughter (when she grows up) decide to voluntarily leave the organization, they will be permanently separated from each other forever by this "loving?" organization !

  I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't know Mary that well but OMG I hate to see this happen. I'm sure she doesn't know about shunning, the blood issue, the UN scandal, or pedophile problems.

  According to my Mother, Mary is friendly with a neighbor across the street (Doris) who my Mother also knows. Doris lost her husband about a year ago and has been depressed which makes her another ripe candidate via Alberta or Mary. So there is a potential of three people's lives being ruined by this damnable organization if Mary succumbs to Alberta's teaching.

  Can I nip this in the bud? Should I speak with Mary myself, as well as Doris across the street? If I give them a copy of "Crisis of Conscience", Alberta may tell her to throw it out. If I print off some Internet stuff, Alberta will tell her to ignore it as apostate material. How about some questions to put to Alberta, e.g., "Is it true that if after I'm baptized and I start to disagree with WT policies somewhere down the line, that I will be disfellowshipped and shunned? and that if my granddaughter is also baptized, she will be required to shun me also?" To tell them about the UN or pedophile problems would be useless because Alberta probably doesn't even know about it and will deny it. If I come across as the "bad" guy, I'll be playing right into Alberta's hands. TALK ABOUT SPIRITUAL WARFARE!

  I don't know if Mary or Doris have the Internet.

  Advice please on a strategy.

  Trot [in a panic]
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  Abuse Victims in Texas/Those with Info

  by Country Girl in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been contacted by a reporter wanting to do a documentary on jws and child abuse.

  she is from this area.

  those who know what i am talking about, please write me for further information.

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  WHAT DO YOU DO FOR WORK?

  by hamptonite21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i work in the lending industry, im an account rep for a wholesale mortgage bank.

  royal bank of canada in newyork.

  edited by - hamptonite21 on 12 november 2002 22:40:6.

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  Trotafox

  Executive Administrative Assistant in Human Resources and Administation at a marine transportation firm (tankers, tugs, supply vessels worldwide).

  Trot