Posts by TonusOH

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Cappytan makes a good point about this part:

At some point soon it is my hope that a full list of examples of precisely how I have been defamed by each of the defendants during the three-month window (Jan 31 to April 30) will be made public. We had hoped that this would be included in the original filing but due to time constraints my legal team chose to wait for the court to invite them to amend the paperwork retroactively with specific examples based on evidence I compiled back in April.

So, his 'legal team' did not include any actual examples of defamatory statements when they filed the criminal complaint, instead preferring to wait for the court to ask them to provide some? And this is why he hasn't made any of them public? Does he understand how the legal system works? This really does make me think that his lawyer is taking him for a ride (all expenses paid!). Imagine that you decide to file assault charges against your neighbor, and when the cops ask what happened, you tell them to file the charges first and ask for specifics later. Your amended complaint, you tell them, will detail what actually happened.

If you're lucky, they'll simply ask you to leave. Otherwise, it won't be your neighbor spending the night in jail.

In any case, it's as expected. Just a few hours after he made the statement, and already the 'defendants' are making fun of him and having a laugh at his expense. VAH's comment that he and Marc Latham would start a gang in Croatian prison made me laugh out loud.

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

TonusOH

Not just wheat, but also fertilizer, as I understand it. Food shortages may very well be coming.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

The only time he has provided anything close to specifics is when he has referred to the accusations of grooming a 14-year-old. If those accusations cannot be proven, then he's potentially got a case against anyone who made the accusation. The question then becomes, who made those accusations? Can he demonstrate that any of the seven made those accusations publicly and with malice? Remember, defamation would require that a person make a claim that is untrue or that they cannot prove is true, made with malice aforethought.

He cannot file a credible civil/criminal claim for statements made about him that he has confirmed to be true. He has denied that he groomed a 14-year-old or that he had any sort of sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl when he was in the UK. Aside from that, he has admitted to lots of stuff. He cannot win a case against any of those claims, nor would a judge allow him to base a lawsuit on the definition of "regularly" and how it applies to his admitted actions.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

How can he hire a lawyer to file criminal charges? Thats the state's job. You dont have to hire a lawyer for criminal prosecutions.

Yeah, that part seems odd. An individual can press charges or report crime to the authorities, at which point a prosecutor can determine whether or not to follow through. Defamation is an actual crime in Croatia, the sort of law that can help keep the press in line when the government is as sensitive as Evans. I would be surprised (and quite amused) if the government agreed to spend tax dollars to pursue criminal charges in such a case.

But when you are confident that no one will contest the charges, you can file away and bluster all you want online. The problem will be the aftermath, when the 'defendants' continue to poke fun at him and mock him endlessly even after they were all 'convicted' of the crime of insult.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

That his court case will succeed is a vain hope. Even if it did, there will be no repercussions except it would let him 'crow' his innocence.

That's the gist of it. Notice that he tries to gloss over the actual consequences of the case, assuring everyone that the court can find against someone who doesn't bother to show up to defend themself. That's pretty much the extent of the consequences- you'll be 'convicted' in absentia of insulting someone across the internet. Actual consequences? Nothing.

And I'll point out again, that he does not want any of this stuff actually tried in court, with defendants making a case and cross-examining or deposing him. He can say what he wants in a Twitter rant or Facebook post, but it would be very different facing an actual lawyer, asking him questions that might actually put him in his own legal trouble.

One curious thing that he points out as "obvious" is this:

When you defame someone it isn't their job to provide a point-by-point summary of how you have defamed them and/or help you fact-check your defamatory content to make it more agreeable.

Actually, it is exactly like that. Unless the Croatian courts use the standard of 'guilty until proven innocent,' you do have to prove your case to either a judge or jury. Same with a civil case. And you are indeed expected to provide the defense with a summary of the case you intend to make, again unless Croatian courts allow plaintiffs to ambush defendants with a lawsuit.

Again, I have to wonder if this "legal team" exists outside of his mind.

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

TonusOH

There was a twitter post with this info:

Groceries +11.9% y/y -->Biggest increase since 1979
Chicken +17.4% ->Largest ever
Restaurants +9% -> Largest ever
Fuel oil +107% ->Largest ever
Electricity +12% ->Largest since '06
Rent +5.2% ->Largest since 1987
Airfare +37.8% ->Largest since 1980
Services +5.7% ->Largest since 1990

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

But Cedars? Just imagine if he were truly being controlled by WT.

It would explain why Anthony Morris buys so much liquor, lol.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

Is that really him? It's gotten to where the parody would be indistinguishable from the real thing.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

"What is the sign of the last days," his supporters implored, "and how will we know the time has come?"

"There will be many signs," he replied. "Litigation, and threats of litigation. In one court after another, filings and more litigation. But this is not the end of litigation, it is only the beginning..."

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Capitol Attack Hearings

by shadowclone in

hearings are on the schedule for abc, bbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc and nbc.

not on fox "news".. will you be watching?

or maybe .

TonusOH

There isn't much that will come of it. The people who rioted were arrested and charged and have been or are being dealt with. If they had anything of any substance against Trump or other politicians, they'd have acted on it by now. The only thing left is to put on a show and see if bread and circuses can make voters forget how bad things have been over the past year.

As for an insurrection or coup-- if that's what the capitol rioters were attempting, it was possibly the poorest effort ever made, and had no chance of succeeding since our government doesn't work that way. The notion that you could put a gun to the VP's head and have him determine an election by request is laughable, and few of the rioters were armed or even seemed to know what they wanted to do, aside from make some noise and run around with no sense of purpose.

If November does turn out to be a red wave, this kind of clueless theatre of the absurd is one of the reasons.