Ratherbeinhades is stating that there are many many cases of such abuse going on by the elders. I would like to see this long list of proof he has. But in a different thread please.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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Proof please, not allegations and Bethel tales. Since ratherbeinhades is going to drag every discussion Im in off topic, can he please start a different thread.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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You showed us one example. Now wheres the rest of them.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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Can you provide proof for us of this long list of elders who were molesting children PRIOR to their appointment and who continued doing so DURING the time of their appointment and AFTER their appointment?
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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This is not about Jehovah or the WT. This is about his inability to admit when he is wrong and how he cannot rightly call his website jwFACTS
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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I will answer all child abuse issues once my previous issues with jwfacts have been settled. So if you really want answers to your questions, I'd urge him to address my arguments and his contradictions.
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Recovery - Why so much intellectual dishonesty?
by tootired2care inrecovery likes to point out little nit-picky technical with the jwfacts.com website.
recovery to me is aptly described in jesus illustration as the one who strains the gnat but gulps the camel.. why can't he acknowledge any of the responses and evidence presented to his questions in the threads that he's created?
furthermore why doesn't recovery use the same critical standard on the organization that has claimed to be selected by christ and is spirit directed?
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I can find recent WT quotes that echo similar sentiments if you'd like. But I would tootiredtocare to show me how I have been intellectually dishonest.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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Recovery
I don't know how else I can word it for you. I lined up jwfacts earlier statements with those he stated later. Read carefully.
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Recovery - Why so much intellectual dishonesty?
by tootired2care inrecovery likes to point out little nit-picky technical with the jwfacts.com website.
recovery to me is aptly described in jesus illustration as the one who strains the gnat but gulps the camel.. why can't he acknowledge any of the responses and evidence presented to his questions in the threads that he's created?
furthermore why doesn't recovery use the same critical standard on the organization that has claimed to be selected by christ and is spirit directed?
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Recovery
The Watchtower does not call itself 'Bible facts'. In fact on numerous occassions it has advised readers that everything contained within should not be regarded as fact. On two occassions I have presented arguments that he has not been able to overcome (at least not without the assistance of someone like Leolaia), and he will never admit he is in error. He will never admit he contradicts himself and is simply concerned with his Google ranking and how many hits his website is getting.
Time Is At Hand, 1916 edition, opening forward
""Our mistake was evidently not in respect to the ending of the Times of the Gentiles; we drew a FALSE conclusion, however, not authorized by the Word of the Lord."
9-1-83 wt
"Although the Bible Students had elders and deacons (ministerial servants), FALSE religious ideas still prevailed in some respects. Thus right into the 20th century elders were chosen by the congregations through a democratic voting process, indicated by a show of hands."1870s: We do not object to changing our opinions on any subject, or discarding former applications of prophecy, or any other scripture, when we see a good reason for the change, — in fact, it is important that we should be willing to unlearn errors and mere traditions, as to learn truth.... It is our duty to "prove all things." — by the unerring Word, — "and hold fast to that which is good."
We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. Zion's Watch Tower, 1908Will we ever see such honesty from jwfacts? I doubt it.
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Jwfacts-- Why So Many Contradictions?
by Recovery ini am well aware that many members of this board adhere to the view that the wt and/or the bible is contradictory.
the question is: if paul grundy is so enlightened as to 'the truth about the truth', why is he so contradictory?.
jwfacts to me (in a personal message): "much of the information at jwfacts.com is from the research of people far more gifted then me,and comes from jwn.
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This site trumps jwfacts website by a long shot so I could honestly care less about how much his google ranking/site traffic will increase. When you type "Jehovah's Witnesses" on Google you will come to this site before you do his. And that's all that really matters LOL
Changing the topic to child abuse/WT errors/the governing body/anything else you can come up with won't erase the contradictions. Jwfacts couldn't even defend them. What makes you think you can?
We do not even aver that there is no mistake in our interpretation of prophecy and our calculations of chronology. 
Zion's Watch Tower, 1908