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Posts by waton
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42Sad News Of Zing
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara invery sad news .i am zing's partner.
first time on any kind of blog so please forgive any mistakes.
we have lost zing to the coronavirus this saturday gone, in the early hours.
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waton
With over 50% of the virus -caused/related deaths occurring in senior warehousing facilities, you can be sure wt adherents there will try to buy their way into "blessings" by supporting the "work", even beyond their death, in their will.
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At the mouth of 2-3 witnesses a matter is established .Gods word the bible proves a generation is 50 years +, or - 5 years
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses make a big deal about the 2 or 3 witnesses in judicial decisions yet they ignore that evidence when it suits them.. firstly :.
regarding the length of a generation matthew ch.1:17 gives a strong clue ,their are 3 lots of 14 generations mentioned which equal 42 generations from the time of abraham to jesus .. watchtower publications give abrahams birth as 2018 bc......they also give jesus birth as of 2 bc a period of 2016 years .
2016 yrs.
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waton
"We may have spotted a parallel universe going backwards in time"
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532770-400-we-may-have-spotted-a-parallel-universe-going-backwards-in-time/#ixzz6KnFiQq9sand wtBtS inc comes close to inhabiting that alternative universe:
Generic generation is 14-50 years long, wtBtS inc's is a geriatric: two 100 year old seniors with a 40 year overlap = 160 years long.
In wt, people that want to die take the Eucharist (emblems), people that do not want to die (Other Sheep) reject the wine and bread offered.
Jesus fed the wine and bread to Other Sheep, non anointed, wt does not, allows only the anointed like Jesus, (the non-partaker) to partake.
Jesus said the last generation will pass away after the end, wt says generation will pass away before the end event, the GT even starts,
Jesus said generation will pass away, wt says millions of the last generation will never die. wt still teaches that!!, first heard in the book of Genesis. backward in time,wt land, an upside down universe, 'changing time and seasons".
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Zoom meetings to continue thru July
by Wakanda inco is coming and expecting to zoom it in july.
also there is no talk about starting to slowly go back to the hall.
like having 1 group at the hall and the rest on zoom, etc.
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waton
If this keeps going like this, it will be a second fulfillment of the trek in the wilderness, pre-promised land times,
Meeting suits and shoes will not wear our for 40 years, often good used, old quality that thy were in the first place,
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At the mouth of 2-3 witnesses a matter is established .Gods word the bible proves a generation is 50 years +, or - 5 years
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses make a big deal about the 2 or 3 witnesses in judicial decisions yet they ignore that evidence when it suits them.. firstly :.
regarding the length of a generation matthew ch.1:17 gives a strong clue ,their are 3 lots of 14 generations mentioned which equal 42 generations from the time of abraham to jesus .. watchtower publications give abrahams birth as 2018 bc......they also give jesus birth as of 2 bc a period of 2016 years .
2016 yrs.
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Bump for all of the newbies here to think about
S3: food for thought: Jesus taught a 'pass away generation'.but
In 1918 wt writers introduced the "will never pass away, never die " generation, millions in number. but
then they switched to 'anointed' generation, which has to pass away, to die, to go to heaven. But
the wait is too long, so they added the anointed overlap with >100 year old "group" members overlapping in succession. Even then they get it wrong, because as you quoted:
"--not pass away until all these things occur" but the wt anointed will pass away, right away, -- before the Great Tribulation hits hard. (you cant be in heaven fighting while also still being axed on earth),
wt generation doctrine has so many flaws, the 14 -50 years is only one of their problems.
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July 2020 Watchtower - A little observation
by Listener inthis is a comment made in the latest study watchtower under the main discussion of humility.
11 jehovah values humility more than ability and unity more than efficiency.
therefore, do your best to serve jehovah with humility.
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waton
"Whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave." "jesus', proposing humility from the top down, not bottom up.
wt bullies have gained top positions, in many places. A replay of Mein Krampf.
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A Question: How About Praying for -or Including a Mention of - Covid-19 First Responders?
by Room 215 inhow do you think the congregation would react?
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waton
Paul said to pray for the King.
DOC: I thought of that. this topic is about first responders. The reigning king of 1914 vintage is obviously not a first responder. he has sat by*** during the flu of 1918, and again now, 2019. Clearly bible recommended prayers are ineffective. besides in some places, like La belle Provence, the congregation would be praying for the army, it's good work of protection of the vulnerable in the miserably run senior homes.
*** correction: He has sanctioned his then still spirit directed organisation to wage the campaign: "------ Millions mow Living will Never Die" wt's vital contribution to fight the virus.
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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses Shun fellow believers When God and Jesus never shunned even Satan ?
by smiddy3 inscholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.
the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.
apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..
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waton
In the stories, "satan' and the 2 big "Js" discussed serious doctrinal matters together, a strict no no for wt land "elders" with apostates, or jw family members, except for essential business.
remember the 3 protagonists here were all family members. so:
wt wrong again, out on a limb? without a precedent to fall back on? just ready for another doctrinal fall or fail?
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MUCH CLOSER LOOK -yes let’s take one
by Brainfloss inmcl responded in part, in an earlier post about the hypocrisy in religion even the true religion.
making dumb guesses about god's cryptic prophecies makes them foolish and indiscreet- not false prophets who claim god gave them the message.. two questions—.
1) what is the “true religion‘s” definition of a prophet?.
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waton
1) what is the “True Religion‘s” definition of a prophet?
Bf: By way of example, wt writers gave a definition of the "false Prophet" of revelation to be: The Anglo-American world power.
2) --?? wt's answer to that one: --- the abyss, the lake of fire.wt dances around the "false prophet" question by deliberately ignoring it.
This week's meeting deals with that term in "jesus's" end time prophecy. with Silence, on 1914, 1925, 1975. but here is an example of false wt projections:
"Great tribulation will be cut short for the sake of the "chosen ones" " aka partakers. in order for some, [their] " flesh to be saved." but:
latest wt "new light" is: Partakers will be going to heaven at the outset of the GT, their flesh will not be saved, but disposed off by angels. the lives of Other Sheep are in peril, need a shorter tribulation. so:
Doctrinally, prophetically, wt has already dug it's own grave, as described in Revelation. "speaking for Jehovah" as they claim.
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New York Times: ‘People Would Be So Receptive Right Now, and We Can’t Knock on Doors.’
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
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waton
well, it was recommended under the circumstances to read old literature again, if the good NYT readers did that, may be they would come across the bunker, basement or attic wt images; they can deduce from those, with the publishers in hiding, that the persecution, " touch the apple of the eye" great tribulation is about to unleash.
" let the reader use discernment"