Thank you fastjehu,
if we are ever in the sane country we will have a beer đ
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Thank you fastjehu,
if we are ever in the sane country we will have a beer đ
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Ron w,
I aGree with you, unfortunately itâs a fantastic âsoft place to fallâ for vulnerable people đ
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Listener,
You are correct. Disclosing information wasnât a decision that I made lightly and I was in a world of shock for many weeks. I tried my best to keep everything I disclosed directly linked to Lloydâs activism and the community. I also have tried to protect Dijana.
Now that I have had time to reflect and am not getting yelled at as often online I do worry that by staying silent about other matters, I could be band aiding the problem and enabling him.
I also balance that with the âitâs none of our businessâ argument. Is it in the interest that the community be made aware? Do these things impact the community?
I donât know the answer to these questions so I have remained quiet âŚ.
Having re-read this and giving consideration to your point, I do see what your saying. I need to give that some thought, but I do take your point. Thank you for the question, you have me thinking. X
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Slimboyfat,
I donât know really. I think it will restrict his participation in government inquiries, media opportunities and activism groups etc and certainly anything to do with CSA.
Lloyd has been quoted as saying that itâs going to take him 2 years to recover from âthis damage to his reputationâ, which makes me think he is just going to keep shouting down and âcleansingâ his channel of anything that could alert new followers/collaborators to the truth about him.
I am a classic example of this, I knew nothing about the AAWA issue, the crisis of conscience book issue, that he was funded by the community for his books and how heavily he has bullied the exjw community and the graveyard of activists that he has left in his destructive path.
If the community listen to those on social media who are accusing people of bullying and being obsessed, and to lloyd who threatens legal action and stop talking about it and holding him to account, then eventually he could rebuild.
I have done what I can to inform the community however if the community does not unite, learn from these experiences and move forward, he will weaken the community and succeed again.
I also worry about peopleâs attitudes towards other activists like mark OâDonnell. Some people venerate him and now want to move their financial support to him. I see that as handing the weapons from one army to the other and expecting peace.
Of course this would all be completely irrelevant if Lloyd is charged with a CSA related offense, and/or found guilty. If that happened, I donât think anyone would expect him to survive that.
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Nicolau, I wish I had known about the forum and read the info before I got involved with him đ I will go back and have a look
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China, I donât know if he is still in the house or not
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Listener, (sorry I don't know how to reply to your message like everyone else is doing)
Dijana played a role in the delay in providing information. She shared some very seriously concerning information with us about their relationship and I wanted to help as much as I could. It wasn't the only factor, I had to process my own shock at the time and didn't know what to think or whether I should say anything....it was a lot to process at the time.
As to why Lloyd told us, and why he asked us to support Dijana still confuses me today. I can only suggest that he didn't think Dijana would share information with us and that we would convince her to stay with him.....I don't know...
Dijana was neutral about the sharing of information to the public.
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It is/was Dijanaâs intention yes
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Thatâs ok Chinapomo, itâs happened plenty of times âŚ.
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I asked dijana whether she had anyone to talk to and she said no. I asked why she didnât have any friends and her response to me was âI had a friend once but lloyd didnât like herâ. He asked us as Dijana didnât have any support.
As regards the âsuicidal thoughtsâ on NYE, I do not believe that he was suicidal, I think he was being dramatic. He did express to me in writing that he had no intention of taking any actions which he didnât share publicly. He conveniently shared only small parts of our conversation.