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  Love and compassion

  by stavro in

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  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-37955748.

  after watching this i asked myself the question, how did i ever believe jehovah was about to kill billions of people who have so much love and compassion in their hearts?.

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  stavro

  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-37955748
  

  After watching this I asked myself the question, how did I ever believe Jehovah was about to kill billions of people who have so much love and compassion in their hearts?
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  My gay friend went back to JWs?

  by schnell in

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  one of my best friends was disfellowshipped several years ago, and word quickly got around that it was because he's gay.

  we lost touch after that because of the disfellowshipping, but since i'm out now, i just found him online and got back in touch with him.

  it was a great conversation, but he said he returned to jehovah.

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  stavro

  Facing up to the reality of their own mortality can be too big a step for many people who have spent their lives believing wholeheartedly in everlasting life. Gay people also want to live forever in paradise.
  
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  GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

  by freddo in

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  study article: who is leading god's people today?

  start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

  therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

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  stavro

  Standard version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction."

  Simplified version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor perfect. It can make mistakes when explaining the Bible or directing the organization."

  They are admitting that potentially, they could have misinterpreted the scriptural cocktail they use in their attempt to prove they were appointed by God in 1919. Could it be they are actually just self appointed?

  Where does wrong interpretation end and correct interpretation begin? As they admit they are not inspired by holy spirit, how can anyone truly know?
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  Shouting voice on: HELLO! THE PREACHING WORK WITH ITS JW MESSAGE IS A FAILURE! A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME!

  Whatever suspicions people may have about their financial situation one thing is for certain, their construction plans indicate they are not forecasting a huge influx of new converts. Their actions are an indication they recognize that their message has failed to convince the masses, and will continue to fail to do so.
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  The only reason they have the option of consolidating congregations into fewer kingdom halls is because the halls are half empty. They must have given up on their hope of filling halls to capacity through the preaching work.
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  Intelligent design thought.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. beliefs

  ok god designed this planet and then most everything on it intelligently yet 97% of the water on the earth is un drinkable.

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  He is a God of war. Humans have always fought over limited resources.
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  The Secret of How Life on Earth Began - A new BBC article.

  by nicolaou in

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  released today, this is a very accessible and easy to understand piece by michael marshall for the bbc.

  it's lengthy, and i'll confess i've taken a break about a third of the way in but i'm loving it!

  the secret of how life on earth began.. enjoy.

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  Thank you Nicolaou, I just finished reading it. It provides an excellent summary of all the latest research and developments. Mankind's problem solving capacity is truly remarkable.
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  "The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

  by smiddy in

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  that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

  " "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

  have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

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  I am amazed at their attempt to provide evidence proving that they are the FDS. They provide a short list outlining the best possible evidence that they can currently provide.

  They claim that their clearer understanding of scripture could only be made possible if they were been helped by holy spirit. However, they admit they are not inspired by holy spirit and as a consequence of this, their clearer understanding of scripture could actually be false. Am I missing something or have they just discredited the very evidence they are attempting to use?

  Not only do most religions claim to be in procession of the same evidence, they also have it in greater abundance.

  Most Christians also reject the watchtower's clearer understanding as lacking in sufficient scriptural support.
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  How do you prove the watchtower organisation is not genuine using recent evidence?

  by punkofnice in

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  when i was a jobo, i would say that anything in jobo history, eg.

  miracle wheat, beth sarim et al (old light), wasn't worth considering as evidence that the wbt$ was a weirdo cult.. i think that's probably the jobo mindset now.. what would you show them from very recent lies teachings to encourage them to consider the possibility the wbt$ is a scam?.

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  Is having a blood transfusion no longer an automatic disfellowshipping offence?
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  My Explanation of Why They Got it Wrong About Blood Using Only the NWT

  by cofty in

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  10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.

  12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.

  15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.

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  It was the inability of anyone to come up with a scripturally superior counter argument on jwtalk which demonstrated how unassailable this line of reasoning really is. It provides the watchtower with a scripturally sound reason for the preservation life through the use of blood from another living person.

  Cofty, you could be a great theist. With your ability to reason from the scriptures, people would easily be prepared to hand over their time and money to you.