i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
hillary,
Trying to find a German that served in WWII who will admit to having fought on the Western Front is like trying to find the perfect wife - you know, the lonesome nymphomaniac who owns a liquor store.
i am not sure but i would assume most germans actually did fight primarily at the eastern front rather than the western.
why would soldiers not admit of fighting in the west?
i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
roy,
the outcome of the war was already clear when the soviets marched in.
the polish military was not taken by surprise though when the war started (they had began to mobilize in march already)...but their equipment was inferior to the german weapons.
any thoughts on mr. taylor?s claims?.
u.s. demands greater oil output, lower prices.
"finance ministers from the united states and other major industrialized countries, hoping to affect the outcome of a battle within the organization for the petroleum exporting countries, formally demanded yesterday that oil-exporting nations raise production and lower prices to a level 'that is consistent with lasting economic prosperity,'" the new york times reports.
just to make this clear - my comment about the US exploiting the third world was in response to grows post which included this statement:
Poor countries of the world are dying to sell us [US] their goods so that they can lift their destitute populations out of poverty.
as if the rest of the planet would have to be thankful to the US for buying their products. that is of course complete BS. the US like the rest of the first world is explointing the poor countries. that i singled out the US was because grows referred to the US as benefactor.
farenheit 9/11 ... sorry neo cons .
any film that gets a 15 min standing ovation must be worth watching.
i wonder if bush will go see it?!
you are stating that allowing slavery is better than allowing gun ownership.
oh please!
whether gun ownership might have prevented slavery (it was not a question of allowing them to have guns but the simple fact thet they were living in the stone age and were viewed as primitive apelike creatures) has absolutely no bearing on this question - which is wheter in the current society it is good or bad that guns are kept by the population.
i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
roybatty & hillary,
i did a quick google search and couldn't find a creadible source for the cardboard tank view (i heard it on a germany history program a couple of years ago). imo it does make some sense since germany used many cardboard tanks in their maneuvers which could be eliminated by cavalry. the google search revealed however that the whole incident (with or without cardboard) seems to be more of a myth generated by the german propaganda in 1939 than anything else. apparently cavalry tried to attack german infantry and got surprised by german tanks.
regarding colaboration with the germans...this existed on all sides not just in france.
that they had nothing left to throw at the invading armies but their own bodies. Rather similar to the attacks the Poles made on Monte Cassino in which they used their own bodies to clutter the firing positions of the Germans barricaded within.
that does not sound very reasonable. unless you think you have a real chance of eliminating the enemy position or you are threatened by getting killed by your own troops (such as the soviets) if you don't storm the enemy position no normal person would sacrifice themselfs in such a way.
farenheit 9/11 ... sorry neo cons .
any film that gets a 15 min standing ovation must be worth watching.
i wonder if bush will go see it?!
crazy,
you are throwing things into the discussion that have nothing to do with the issue.
so because drinking is legal despite being detrimental other detrimental things should be allowed as well?
what has war or slavery to do with civilists killing each other with guns?
i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
regarding the french resistance....does anyone know the comedy show: Allo Allo???? with cafe rene???? hilarious stuff! http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/allo/
farenheit 9/11 ... sorry neo cons .
any film that gets a 15 min standing ovation must be worth watching.
i wonder if bush will go see it?!
avi,
also knifes are a necessary evil.
you can hardly prevent a person from killing someone else by taking away tools if the person is really committed to doing it. however, providing efficient means of killing makes the situation unnecessarily worse than it has to be. many murders would not happen if it would not be so damn easy - just pulling the trigger.
i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
simon,
great posts! i really commend you for maintaining such a neutral standpoint on these issues.
hillary,
The German's did target the civilian region of Warsaw with Stukas. They broke the will of an already defeated nation by launching wave upon wave of these 'screaming' planes. Charging Panzer divisions on horseback was not a wise strategy but it was all the Poles had, that and courage. The Polish army was filled with very, very brave people, they were outgunned and destroyed but fought like tigers to preserve their homeland.
interestingly hitler pointed out in his victory speech that the polish soldiers faught bravely. the polish cavallery attack the tanks because they thought it was paper tanks used to create a diversion. no one is attacking a tank with a bayonet.
just on a side note...sturzkampfbomber carried only one bomb which usually hit the target with very high accuracy. it was used against military targets, transportation and industrial buildings. it was incapable of large scale bombings.
i was wondering what the french had to say on d-day celebrations in their own country.
they will have a week of celebrations, but:
en tant que representant des etats-unis, c'est george bush qui recueillera l'hommage aux "combattants de la liberte" de la seconde guerre mondiale.
crazy,
i assume you refer to the battle about warsaw. the germans forced the city to surrender (with over 100.000 polish soldiers inside). despite the heavy fighting 'only' 13% of the town were destroyed. 25.000 civilians were killed during the whole of the german invasion. most of the destruction took place much later. by the end of 1944 85 to 90% had been destroyed.
