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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  @Fisherman

  It seems that my questions are going to remain unanswered... That's a pity because you're losing the opportunity of putting some more time into your monthly report. And perhaps I would get the chance to see that I'm really wrong. Perhaps you could make me see the light and return to WT and stop trying to show my wife and daughter how mean and destructive it really is.

  Anyway, I still have two more questions for you:

  1. Why don't JWs turn the questions they ask other religions to their own faith?
  2. If you stand for WT as fiercely as you do, how come that you've been participating so actively and for so long in this forum in total disregard and opposition to the GB orders talking to all these apostates and heretics?
     
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  @Fisherman

  I keep my questions:

  1. How did WT correct the child abuse situations?
  2. Are you saying that God doesn't know what He wants to say when he tells His people what to say in His name?
  3. Did God and Jesus tell us to worry about dates? Where?
  4. Did they tell us to focus on preaching and not care for for elderly, the weak, the poor, the ill...? Where?
  5. Did they tell us that the most important thing is a piece of paper with a bunch of hours per month?! Where?
  6. Can God lie, like the WT does all the time?!
  7. Did Jesus tell us to be arrogant and presumptuous like the WT/GB are?

  As you can see, they are not rhetorical questions, they are direct questions.
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  Read the posts on this site by “scholar” on this topic and my commentary on those threads. But if you have facts other than the interpretation and conclusions please show. Your posts so far are assertions.

  I'm not going to search for any other posts to read anything you've already written because you've answered to one of my posts here telling me wrong. So, the discussion takes place here.

  You just need to open any encyclopedia to know that Jerusalem didn't fall in 607 AEC or read The Gentle Times Reconsidered. Therefore 1914 means nothing! What proof do you have to prove me wrong?
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  Excellent questions Punko!
  

  Indeed. But they are probably going to be labelled as "rhetoric" too...
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  The only fact is that the conclusion you allude to based on interpretation of the evidence.
  

  Again, I ask, based on what sources do you conclude that? What work(s) have you studied/read?

  Still, no answers to my questions...
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  That is an interpretation. JW believe different.
  

  No interpretation here, facts! Again, what have you read on the issue?

  Not question but rhetoric. JW disagree with your view.
  

  No, those were questions for you too answer, not rhetorical questions! That only shows that you're not open for discussing the matter.

  And...

  Yes, JW have made a great work. But, so have all car manufacturers who sell cars everywhere! You're not going to say that JW saved the Bible or that those peoples didn't have it, are you?!

  They have been successful at distorting the biblical message, at spreading their ideas, which are not based on the Bible, and on taking suffering into other people's homes, not Jesus's freedom and hope!
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  Because that ain’t wrong

  What have you read to support your statement?! There are more than 5000 archaeological documents that prove that date wrong!!!

  What about my other questions?
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  And they corrected it.

  Like they corrected the child abuse situations? The wrong date of 1914 in connection with the wrong date of the destruction of Jerusalem? Are you saying that God doesn't know what He wants to say when he tells His people what to say in His name? Did God and Jesus tell us to worry about dates? Did they tell us to focus on preaching and not care for for elderly, the weak, the poor, the ill...? Did they tell us that the most important thing is a piece of paper with a bunch of hours per month?! That's how we assess spirituality... Can God lie, like the WT does all the time?! Did Jesus tell us to be arrogant and presumptuous like the WT/GB are?
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  That is right. JW are fulfilling Bible prophecy.

  Yes, they are, they are the false prophet!
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  joao

  Oh boy, so many questions!!! You cannot pose questions!!! Don't you know that already?!