Posts by I believe in overlapping

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So what can we expect if the GB individual members are named in child sexual abuse lawsuit?

it’s one thing to go after the watchtower in a legal lawsuit, but it’s a completely different thing to go after the individual governing body members and point the finger at them as the ones responsible for covering up child sexual abuse in the congregations world-wide.

the reason i say this is because i have seen when the watchtower organization makes the news on some child abuse case, the normal reaction from publishers is;.

for example king saul turned wicked.”.

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It’s one thing to go after the Watchtower in a legal lawsuit, but it’s a completely different thing to go after the individual Governing Body members and point the finger at them as the ones responsible for covering up child sexual abuse in the congregations world-wide.

The reason I say this is because I have seen when the Watchtower organization makes the news on some child abuse case, the normal reaction from publishers is;

“There will always be a few rotten apples in the organization just like in times past. For example King Saul turned wicked.”

The Governing Body on the other hand is not a few rotten apples.

They are the “Faithful and discreet slave that Jehovah and Jesus appointed over all their belongings, - to give them their food at the proper time”

If the lawsuit goes forward to name all the individual members of the GB, the initial reaction from the members will be--------------APOSTATE LIES!

But an issue of this sort, involving a fairly prominent U.S. religious organization is something that is just too tempting for the news media to just let go. The court sessions will be publicized, and all the their dirty tactics that they’ve used to cover up all the child sexual abuse that has been going on for decades will be revealed to the public as well as to the members.

Even the most ignorant, gullible, and uneducated person can only go so far as regards trusting the WT Organization. At some point after seeing evidence plus more evidence, the cognitive dissidence breaks down and reason starts taking over.

At some point, most people will be forced to look at the issue carefully;

Child Sexual Abuse cover-up VS Jehovah, a God of Love and Righteousness

I say that if this lawsuit of naming all the individual members of the Governing Body as being responsible for the tons of child sexual abuse cases goes through, and if the court sessions are publically revealed to the whole world,

A big chunk of the membership will take a step back, and start researching the Organization.

And you know what happens after that!

Keep in mind that waking up to the fact that you were in a cult takes time. So I don’t imagine a quick exodus. But the amount of JWs who do wake up will be substantial.

Reason being is that now you are not talking about a few rotten apples.

Now you are talking about the Faithful and discreet slave who are the main ones responsible for the sexual abuse of many children and their efforts to protect the identity of the pedophiles in the organization.

A person or group can only claim to be innocent for a limited time. Eventually that limited time runs out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMu-2tXfPQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmjTMNvH6eI

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How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

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it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

“i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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most severe temperature variations are not because of the small eccentricity of the Earth orbit, but the inclination of the axis.
If you live where most white humans do (the northern hemisphere}, you are actually closer to the Sun in wintertime.(that is why February is so short).

I know that, my point was that the distance between the earth and sun is not a static 93 mil miles, anything less or more would not be right for human survival according to the above post.

The sun is about 93 million miles away from Earth If ... If Earth were closer to the sun, however, the oceans would boil away. and if farther we would not be able to live on earth

The distance between earth and sun varies. as much as 5 million Km which is a substantial amount.

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How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

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it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

“i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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Alex Williams said;

The sun is about 93 million miles away from Earth If ... If Earth were closer to the sun, however, the oceans would boil away. and if farther we would not be able to live on earth

Alex, you are living in the past. I just graduated high school a couple of years ago and just started college not too long ago and everyone my age knows that Earth's orbit is not a perfect circle. It is elliptical, or slightly oval-shaped. This means there is one point in the orbit where Earth is closest to the Sun, and another where Earth is farthest from the Sun.

That means that at some point in time, the Earth-Sun distance will be 147,093,602 million km. And at another point in time the distance from the Earth to Sun, will be 152,097,053 million km.

The difference between the two is 5,003,451 million km

So at any time the earth deviates over 5 million km from the sun. It’s never a static 93 million miles like you were led to believe by old science.

Think about that. The sun is not 93 million miles away from the earth. It varies which means that in some part of the earth, it is impossible for humans to live there without man’s genius technology.

If you don’t believe me, try living in Antarctica for a couple of months without technology see if the earth was made just for you or any other human. Or try the hot desert, same thing.

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How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

by I believe in overlapping in

it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

“i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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It’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider. My dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said;

“I never thought about it, I’ll have to ask the elders”

The bible says that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden and two cherubs guarded the entrance to prevent them from getting back into the garden,

Jehovah told the couple that any effort to plant anything would result in thorns because the ground was cursed.

Adam and Even had just a few days before they would start getting weak and sick as a result of not eating or drinking water

If the couple was to survive, they had to make some sort of farming tools and needed seed to start planting. But how could they do this if nothing existed outside the garden. And if there did exist something like trees, the couple had no tools to cut the trees down and form tools for planting.

And even if they were able to design, cut, and make some type of plow, or shovel, they would have to do it quickly before starvation started setting in and they got to weak.

And the planting and harvesting cycle can take up months.

And even if all these obstacles were overcome, it would still be in vain because the ground was cursed.

In about 3 days both would start getting very sick. In a week both would have to lay in bed as a result of being too weak for lack of eating. In 21 days both would start dying of starvation or be dead because of starvation..

Humans on average can only survive about 21 days without food, maybe longer if there is plenty of clean water.

Watchtower illustrations in their magazines make it seem like Eve had a sewing machine to make a tarp to use as a makeshift roof. Also look at the containers of clay, the basket hanging on one of the poles, and the nice leopard clothing for her daughter, - How was Eve able to do that? And how did Adam carry the water to irrigate the crops immediately after he was kicked out of the Garden?

The story doesn’t make sense when you consider the reality of life.There was never an Adam and Eve that was kicked out of a beautiful Garden into a barren wilderness without any food, water, tools and seeds, and able to survive at least till the first harvest.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/mp/r1/lp-e/lr/2003/441

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/mp/r1/lp-e/la/2001/79

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Ridiculous refusion of blood transfusions

by Uditha Jayatunga in

i had an encounter with a jehova's witness at my doorstep.

i challenged them on blood transfusions.

later i looked at jw website too.

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BluesBrother
This whole fractions thing muddied the water for me long before I quit.
They forbid blood, red cells , white cells , plasma and platelets

You need to look carefully at their website under JW's position on allogeneic and autologous blood

The information is kind of hidden so you have to look carefully.

Red cells fractions are acceptable

White cells fractions are acceptable

Platelets fractions are acceptable

Plasma fractions are acceptable

It's been like that for years now. I have lots of friends who have taken blood transfusions, and all they have to say is that they just took the whole blood in fractions and the HLC approves it.

The only problem is if you are in a Kingdom Hall where the HLC elders are really stupid and don't keep up with the JW website. If you are in that type of kingdom hall, then you will die.

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Ridiculous refusion of blood transfusions

by Uditha Jayatunga in

i had an encounter with a jehova's witness at my doorstep.

i challenged them on blood transfusions.

later i looked at jw website too.

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JW do take blood, as long as it has been broken into fractions. It's in their website.

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Upset and Concerned!

by The Bethelite in

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i'm very worried.

i just took out two slices of dave's killer bread out of the bag this morning, to make some toast.

i bought the bread almost 2 weeks ago.

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I know what you could do... buy a bread machine and get baking!
Fresh bread every day, yum!!!!
That way you’ll always know what’s in your daily bread

What about the Wheat? It might be a century old and still look fresh.

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Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?

by minimus in

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recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.

he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.

i’ve known him for many years.

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Do you trust what you read or see on the news??

As much as I trust the Governing Body!!!!!

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

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when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

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Fun fact: the nazi party based a lot of their ideas on the democrats platform ... but they decided they needed to tone down the level of racism. Yeah, when the nazis think you're too extreme ...

That's pretty crazy!

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

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friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

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No, there is a proposal supported by a minority of Democrats to repeal Sect, 1325 of title 8 of US Code

But it’s just a proposal, not a law. The United States is a Country governed by laws -Not Proposals. AOC wants to beak the Existing Laws without going through proper channels. What happens if every American decides to do whatever the hell they want without going through the proper channels and breaking existing laws?

Utter Chaos and civil war. There is a very important reason we live by the existing laws and not proposals.

Suppose 100 illegal immigrants break the door down of your house and welcome themselves to everything you own at the cost of your family, -is that OK with you and your family? Would it matter to you that they broke down the door and some of them were criminals and assaulted your family, would that be OK. What if the majority of them did have a proper excuse to flee the country for political reasons, but a few didn't and thus some murderers and rapists tagged along with the group, would that make it ok for this large group of Illegal immigrants to break into you house illegally just to seek asylum?

Or is it better to follow the law and make sure those wanting to enter are vetted?

No matter what the excuse, everyone has to follow the existing law and not go by proposals that aren't even law, or we will have a breakdown in our country and Civil war will break out and destroy everything we have worked so hard to get.

We don’t go by proposals, we go by laws. As the Ice director told AOC, “You want to come into our country for whatever reason, you follow the law or you get deported”