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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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Cofty,

You've got problems of your own. I wouldn't worry about others. Genetic algorithims prove that it would require more DNA than could fit in the entire universe to code 124 proteins just to provide ONE chance to get the coding right. And then, this does not even begin to address the supreme problem of the storage system of DNA itself whereby Harvard graduates have stuffed an amazing 700 Terabytes of information into one gram of DNA. What came first, the information or the storage system? Why?

Try to imagine a bridge developing under Darwin's Theory. Until you can walk across the bridge the wasted structure detracts rather than adds to its success, yet the bridge is far too complex to be built in a single generation. Now, if Genetic Algorithms can't even build a simple bridge how could they possibly build the human eye?

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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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Perry

Question:What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in evolution?

DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now, um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

Richard Dawkins knows as do most scientists that Materialism is dead from a probability standpoint. Notice his prolific use of "just so" language.

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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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Perry

Oh I wholeheartedly believe in science Lisa.

Can you expalin an evolution process that would account for where all the information in DNA could come from?

DEVASTATING MATH PROBABILITIES

The possibilities of it occurring by chance are devastating.

"Based on probability factors . . any viable DNA strand having over 84 nucleotides cannot be the result of haphazard mutations. At that stage, the probabilities are 1 in 4.80 x 10 50 . Such a number, if written out, would read:

480,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

"Mathematicians agree that any requisite number beyond 10 50 has, statistically, a zero probability of occurrence (and even that gives it the benefit of the doubt!). Any species known to us, including the smallest single-cell bacteria, have enormously larger number of nucleotides than 100 or 1000. In fact, single cell bacteria display about 3,000,000 nucleotides, aligned in a very specific sequence. This means that there is no mathematical probability whatever for any known species to have been the product of a random occurrence—random mutations (to use the evolutionist's favorite expression)."—I.L. Cohen, Darwin was Wrong (1984), p. 205.

"This means 1 / 10 89190 DNA molecules, on the average, must form to provide the one chance of forming the specific DNA sequence necessary to code the 124 proteins. 10 89190 DNA's would weigh 10 89147 times more than the earth, and would certainly be sufficient to fill the universe many times over.

A lot of materialists have moved on to aliens Lisa. Scientific discoveries have eliminated the possibility of life occuring by chance here on earth. This of course just kicks the can down the road a bit.

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If God is real?

by suavojr in

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if after you die you find yourself in front a god ready to judge you.

what will you say in your defense for not believing?

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Perry

he would HAVE to be gratified that his judgment of them was fulfilled by his punishment, otherwise what would be the point of his actions if not for gratification, in other words his satisfaction of his prophetic words coming to pass.

Galaxie,

I think you are confusing gratification with satisfaction. You use both words but I think they are different. Honorable judges do not get personal gratification (pleasure) from discharging their duties for which they were appointed to do. However, there is satisfation involved when law violations are judged. The Law is satisfied.

Maybe you don't see a difference, but I do especially when God specifically states "I take no pleasure"....

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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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In recent mags they even pointed out how silly young-earth creationism is.

When I left in '95 everyone I knew bought into the "millions" paradigm including myself. The 12 points I posted should be enough to demonstrate the materialistic and anti-christian indoctrination processes at work in Watchtower mind control.

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The Creation of Eve

by jws in

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for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.

genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.

i will make a helper suitable for him.. .

Perry

The original account says absolutely nothing about the importance of free will and allowing A&E to demonstrate their obedience

But certainly free will was offered because choice was offered.

he would have enforced the rule if he had been present

Of course he was present because he is omnipresent. Oxford reads:

omnipresent

ADJECTIVE

1 (Of God) present everywhere at the same time.

And, he did enforce the rule just as he said he woud. Had he prohibited the taking of the fruit, he would have prohibited free choice.

What the Garden of Eden tells us the most is about the consequences of belief. Belief is extremely important to God. Eve must have disbelieved God BEFORE she disobeyed. We act externally in a manner which is consistent with what we believe internally.

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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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Perry

Don't worry designs. All three of my sons placed their guilt on the cross. They carry none of it now. I had the privilege to baptize all three of them at the same time a few months ago.... ages 31, 8, & 7.

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Materialists, Jehovah's Witnesses & Biblical Christianity

by Perry in

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biblical christian.

Perry

Materialist

Jehovah’s Witness

Biblical Christian

Life started millions of years ago

Life started a few thousand years ago

You can redeem yourself by

your works

You can redeem yourself by

your works

Your works cannot redeem you

There is no judgment after death

It is appointed unto man once to die, then judgment - Heb. 9:27

Jesus didn’t die for me personally

Jesus died for me personally

as a scapegaot

There is no consciousness after death

Dead souls are conscious

(Rev. 6: 9-11)

Jesus is not our Mediator

Jesus is our sole Mediator

Jesus is not in Control

“All Authority in heaven and earth” are given to Jesus

The New Covenant isn’t for them

The New Covenant is for “all of you”

A triune God doesn’t exist

God is triune

We are not a tri-partite being

We are a tri-partite being “in God’s image” Body-Soul-Spirit

Men are Final Authority

New Testament is Final Authority

I am good

None is good except God

I finally figured out why I feel like I'm at the Kngdom Hall sometimes on this discussion board.

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The Creation of Eve

by jws in

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for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.

genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.

i will make a helper suitable for him.. .

Perry

You wouldn't get anything but a second Adam.

Terry,

XX can come from XY. XY cannot come from XX. The biblical narrative is consistent with this.

The XY sex-determination system is the sex-determination system found in humans, In this system, the sex of an individual is determined by a pair of sex chromosomes (gonosomes). Females have two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX), and are called the homogametic sex. Males have two distinct sex chromosomes (XY), and are called the heterogametic sex.

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Christianity (including Jehovahs Witnesses) is the rejection of Christ

by exWTslave in

christianity (including jehovahs witnesses) is the rejection of christ.

take one of the most important teachings of jesus:.

1) he says one can even love his enemies and do good to them, and can tolerate anything (luke 6:27-32).

Perry

I agree with what djeggnog says. Thoughtful post.

That all mankind has been set free from the law of sin and death is the good news that Jesus' apostles preached, but the fact that we have obtained a pardon from any culpability with regard to Adam's sins didn't make anyone a saint. We became sinners through no fault of our own, but we're still "convicts," as it were, being thoroughly convicted of our sins, so until we are healed of our sinful condition, we will all need to demonstrate a willingness to obey the law of Christ as we seek God's forgiveness of our sins with a view to our becoming reconciled to God.

I would only add the vital role of continued belief in Jesus blood alone to that statement. Belief in Jesus' blood plus our works, or plus our church, or plus anything nullifies the New Testament contract of imputed rightreousness.