Personally speaking. The people who don't make a song and dance about helping people are the ones I respect the most. No one has to shout from the rafters that they are helping people. It's like the TikTokers and YouTubers who film themselves whilst giving money to the homeless. They are doing it for clicks and likes.
Thisismein1972
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Lloyd wants people to believe that I (and others) are jealous, vindictive, have a grudge etc. Nothing could be further from the truth
I have to say, Kim, you nailed it.
This is the whole concept of Lloyd's grift. He has created an us vs them scenario, I bit like a "nibbling at the tables of demons" scenario. He has been forced to make his followers believe that those who do not agree with him, even in the slightest way are the "devil" so to speak.
I still remember his video when he promoted the release of Crisis of Conscious with his own cover. His face could barely hide his smugness, he knew exactly what he was doing when he made that video because, in his mind, everyone who fought hard against this blatant copyright infringement is against him. I still remember the sheer number of flying monkeys that attacked everyone who stood up for the author's copyright holder, they even attacked her. One called her a c*nt if I am not mistaken?
Back in 2014, he was at the height of his popularity, and the number of flying monkeys reflected his popularity. Some of these flying monkeys said and did some pretty vile things. He still has a small number of these flying monkeys, but thankfully few and far between now.
Those who go against Lloyd are not doing this out of jealousy, they are doing it because they do not want others to be harmed by this sociopathic narcissist who will never change his attitude. He has had plenty of opportunities to get therapy, but that would not serve his grift well. He is quite comfortable being the wannabe cult leader.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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BORG OFF.
Wait, do you read what you write? Most of the people here, including myself have had personal experience with this guy. I escaped in 2014, whilst I was still in a vulnerable state I happened to say something completely innocent to Lloyd. He took this as a personal attack. Imagine what this does to a vulnerable person.
He has personally gone after people's families, doxxed people, and ruined AWAA and the CSA investigation.
Do you know he sabotaged a very important interview with the media with Marc and Cora regarding exposing child sex abuse within the org?
He represented CSA victims whilst going after CSA victims and using trafficked girls.
And yet you still believe his information is vital and important. You my friend are in a cult. And that is the cult of personality.
I want you to do something for me, please. As you believe he still does good things, can you go to him and advise him to get some help, can you ask him to apologize to everyone he has harmed, when you have done that, can you come back and give us his reply?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Okay I'm just going to blurt this out because I am now sick of Lloyd apologists. You go and defend this vile creature, you go defend a person who used trafficked girls, you go defend an abusive stalker. You go and defend this creature. But I have one thing to say to you. YOU ARE COMPLICIT. We have heard this argument far too many times now and all the while he has got away with EVERYTHING.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Stop it, everyone, you are all lying. He had to dip into his savings to get his daughter's hair cut. He even took a picture of her haircut. You cannot fool me!
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Maybe he should have used this in his patron video. It would have saved a hell a lot of time.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Mike and Kim have mentioned the gifts they received. A lot of YouTubers and media platform creators get sent things by their viewers. Set up a PO Box address and watch it fill up. Most do not ask for gifts to be sent to them and receive them out of kindness.
Lloyd on the other hand begs his audience for the latest gadget and guilts his audience into sending him nice things. Just like the watchtower guilts its followers into taking in CO's and feeding them, and of course, the backhanded money "donations" the CO's receive.
I remember one CO inserting into his talk about liking rich-tasting food, "not that he is asking for this" but you can bet that very night he and his wife would have had a veritable bounty. Lloyd knows exactly how it works, he had training from childhood, and in his brain, he will believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he does.
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Just about every guinea pig after hearing Lloyd's song.
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Just a comment on pictures being "accidentally" found on their shared iCloud account.
There was no accident in this. It is a classic tactic of an abuser. See I don't need you. If you do not want an open marriage, I can easily find other people and I have the pictures to prove, and I will write and tweet about it too.
The only problem is, he cannot easily find others at all, he was down on his luck in the US, so he does what any abuser does, use those less fortunate in life. Those being Thai prostitutes.
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@KIMSILVIO.
Believe me, there have been a lot of people who have come and gone that have spoken out against Lloyd. Lloyd's tactics to silence people were to use his army of flying monkeys to wear people down so much that exhaustion would force people to give up. Then he would use litigation threats, he would also argue to the point of wearing people out. He has doxxed people, and when people called him out, he would turn to the age-old woe is me tactic.
He would use his family as a shield, and then exclaim that all this "drama" has brought him to the brink of suicide. What he did to Mike and Kim, Marc and Cora, Joel, and Mike and Kim's daughter is beyond inexcusable.
He truly thinks that seeing prostitutes is a manly thing and boasts about it thinking that he is dah boss! He is a true product of just how much of a headcase one can be if one does not heal from cult indoctrination. The Watchtower. We were always taught that we can leave jeeeeehooooovah, but he will never leave us. At the time we would have thought that this was a loving (abusive) god calling us, But on reflection, this is how insidious the indoctrination is. Lloyd is living out the apostate meme that watchtower bang on about. He will never heal unless he recognizes that he is still very much damaged by an organization that sucks at his very heart and soul, he will never recognize the harm he is causing.
His timing was impeccable when he left (forced to leave) as it was the height of the SJW (social justice warrior) era, he effectively jumped from one cult into another, and he did what many other ex-cult members do. This is one of the reasons why he got away with his behavior, at this time, it was the in thing to attack others and dox them for having a different opinion, generally the correct opinion. He jumped on the bandwagon that lasted until very recently.
Things are now starting to turn around, One of the most beloved franchises has realized being woke is not working and the latest season of Picard is exciting again, why because there is no woke ideology, it is just good sci-fi fun once again. People have had enough of an ideology that destroys everything good. Lloyd is now on the wrong side of history, and the ideology he has used to further his momentum is now dying, he can no longer hide behind something that has eaten away at the very fabric of society and he will either have to reinvent himself or come to the realization that his time is at an end.
Nothing lasts forever.