Posts by ShadesofGrey

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

when we hear it from our Lord, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit... by means of the anointing with holy spirit that HE has given us.

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Curious about the name "Jesus"

by tec in

my niv has notes at the bottom of pages, regarding other possible meanings and some definitions, etc.. anyway, it says that jesus is the greek form of joshua, which means the lord saves.

would that mean that joshua is the english form of his name?

thanks for your comments,.

ShadesofGrey

Here is a very good quote from the above links:

The word shemiy, which is from the root word shem (H8034), is often translated into English as name. The word shem, has a much deeper meaning than just name in the Hebrew language. Shem can also mean likeness, authority, character, renown, report, memorial, mark, fame, rank, majesty, and a representation of who someone is.

Please read them. It really helped me to make sense of all of this... and yes, I do sometimes use the name Jehoshua in prayer, along with others: My Lord, My God, Almighty...

Father.

I do not for one minute believe that He will refuse to answer when I call Him Father.

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

No sir, what I mean is you are arguing a moot point. "Calling upon" means something. That is why it's important to know the NAME. The sound of it isn't what "calling" means. From my point of view, your throwing mud.

The word shemiy, which is from the root word shem (H8034), is often translated into English as name. The word shem, has a much deeper meaning than just name in the Hebrew language. Shem can also mean likeness, authority, character, renown, report, memorial, mark, fame, rank, majesty, and a representation of who someone is.

And with that I will add what I believe: that I know that Christ is Lord over ALL, and I can call him Lord and still be calling on HIM.

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

If we are trick or treating and I get the best candy haul at a certain house, should I keep it to myself or tell you where to find it too?

Unfortunately, it seems that some here expect BOTH, dear SOG (the greatest of love and peace to you, too!): share it... with the world, even... but also keep it to yourself. Because they chide "us" for NOT "telling the world", sharing it in a more global manner... and then take issue because we share it here, even with them.

Yes it certainly seems that way. Ah, but I guess we cannot please everyone all of the time, can we? So I pray for peace in the matter. My love to you, dear one.

And what would constitute an answer to the OP? Why the only one that has helped me with this question is the one SA has shared in this thread! But then the thread topic has changed hasn't it?

I am bumping up a thread concerning the name of Christ, so that we can all discuss it over there.

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

I Cor. 8:1-2
"We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know."

Learning more about [fill in the blank] has helped me a great deal. However, not everyone needs to hear about it. For some, that is not what they need to build their faith. I also know that if they do need that to build their faith, they could find it on their own, as I have.

Yet, I also know that there are times to share this, there are some people that need to hear it. In regards to a time to keep silent and time to speak, only the Lord knows. If I am leaning on Him and strong in the Spirit then He will direct that. It could be that Shelby needs to learn this. It could be that she already has, and we don't know what the Lord is telling her to say. After all, does He not go searching for the one lost sheep?

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

About Shelby revealing the correct name for the Son of God: Young Earth Science has brought me closer to God. Those that don't ascribe to YEC are no worse off or less correct than I am, and I have seen evidence of this. Yet, at times I am moved to tell others about my Young Earth science beliefs. It may be that there are others, like me, that would benefit.

Thank you PSacramento, I was hoping to hear more from you on that subject.

I am glad that this thread is where it is at the moment. Thank you Sizemik for continuing to explain your thoughts.

I feel I said too much last night. If that is the case, I sincerely apologize.

Love,

ShadesofGrey

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

Those people aren't saying "I don't know" . . . they're saying "I know better than you" . . . and are the opposite of "I don't know" in the context I referred to it. When we become convinced of something . . . it carries a smugness and glibness along with it . . . it's human nature. Accepting that, and making allowance for it in ourselves and others, helps us to see issues more clearly . . .

I agree.

What you said about smugly sitting back and watching others is a completely different thing.

In respect to the OP . . . there have been very few answers here to the subject itself. A huge number of responses, and countless assertions, defending currently held beliefs . . . but few actual answers. That's just my opinion.

I agree.

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

I wish peace and love to abound here for all of us who have been so damaged by religion.

For Christians:

What I have found interesting, is that all of us need something different to draw us to God, and He is faithful. He will be sure we get it. I needed to see that the "faithful slave" was taking Christ's place as mediator, and then I read 1 John. I tried telling my husband. It didn't really help him. Then someone who I had contacted called my husband and expounded a few scriptures to him in the reference bible, showing how the NWT was mistranslated. and BOOM! He called me to tell me that Jesus is Lord.

For my dear friend Shelby: I have seen these things. I think you are explaining far more than is needed, and you certainly have no need to justify yourself to me.

all things are lawful, yet not all things are advantageous

YES and

There is a time to be silent and a time to speak.

Love,

Shades

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

It is nothing about me, it is not about Tammy. We are no more special than you, dear atheist. You have been given the same gift.

You see, when I was a JW I was proud of being one of "God's chosen people".

But now, as a Christian, why would I be proud? It is nothing I have done. He has done it all for me.

Few things on this site "hurt", dear Size (again peace to you!), but I have say, honestly, that this does. Because we're absolutely NOT smugly watching others in their "fruitless" search, but TRYING to tell them where... or rather, WHO... to search FOR. As openly... and honestly... as we can.

Yes, that did hurt and couldn't be further from the truth. When children play hide and seek, and one is found, if that child tries to help the seeker find the other players, does that make them smug?

If we are trick or treating and I get the best candy haul at a certain house, should I keep it to myself or tell you where to find it too?

Someone complemented me recently... on another forum and I told them in no uncertain terms that the glory goes to God. Someone complemented Tammy on these forums, saying that they see more God in her than they do in God. I said that is because God is in her heart... the same God that you could ask into your heart. They thought that was judgemental? I thought that the above is what I was saying. It is here... you can have it too.

1495

An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

If someone is smug about finding Christ then I very much doubt that they actually found Him, or perhaps they did and somehow forgot where He was, Who He is. I do not see smugness as a fruit of the Spirit.

Aguest...I gotta say I liked reading your post 8182...And I do believe that you are genuine in your belief. Actually, I enjoy most of your posts.

I do not however understand You or Tecs reasoning about the name Jesus..its a bit twisty for me.

If men have twisted the name (which I find plausable)...and we cannot be saved by calling on it...again I say to you, that very few, other than the few here and others you may know can be saved if this is important. Most of the world will never even hear or know this name. I know you stated above that many other people from other religions know this name...but if God actually wanted it to be known wouldn't we hear it somewhere, anywhere else other than just here?

Which then leads me to reason that if only a few are called, why put humans through all of this? Why allow the suffering? Why not just choose the people he deems worthy and be done with it? I know the old 'he desires all to be saved'...but hell, he already knows who will be saved. Why let all those children suffer in the process? How can there be any justification for that?

I don't believe that you make stuff up, and the mental health comments just annoy me, my questions and ideas are aimed at understanding not aimed at your mental health or anyone elses here.

I did not learn Christ's Hebrew name from this forum, but learning it did in fact teach me something about Him and draw me closer to Him. That does not mean, however, that those who have not learned this are not His people... not at all. And I will tell you something else. None of us have it all right.