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  Things Rutherford got wrong that Fred Franz had to clear up

  by slimboyfat in

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  i was interested by the suggestion in a recent discussion that rutherford was in some way preferable to fred franz, because i’ve not come across this view before.

  it made me rethink my assumptions and try to work out why i hold the opposite view and prefer fred franz to rutherford.

  i haven’t done any additional research, so i’m only drawing on what i can remember off the top of my head, but i thought i’d list a few things where i reckon fred franz’s approach was preferable to rutherford.

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  vienne

  Looking through my mom's research notes I find this:

  Blood transfusion rejection came about because two witness doctors had a Witness patient who refused blood they believed he needed. In 1945 they wrote to the Society seeking help to persuade their patient that he misunderstood Acts' prohibition on blood. To their surprise the society said he was right, and the Watchtower article that year followed. See July 1, 1945, issue which has, I believe, Franz style.

  This came from an interview with one of the doctors involved. Since they have living family, I probably shouldn't include a name. Blood transfusion became a disfellowshipping offence in 1961 through a question from readers in the January 15th Watchtower.

  I have no details of the internal discussions. Wish I did.
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  You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies. Convention Day 2 Video

  by liam in

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  the governing body is going all out at this years convention.

  they are still discouraging university education.

  i guess the end must be real close .

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  That could happen. Is it a reason to not attend university? Nope.
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  how very ocd of you.
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  TTWSYF, That's Catholic propaganda. A Christian would attribute that to God.
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  " It's difficult to ascertain and judge any Christian religion if it isn't against or in contrast to the earliest one."

  From a Christian perspective that seems irrational. A religion claiming to be Christian should best be contrasted with scripture, not other denominations. A long history does not certify "truth" or holiness or rationality. Though I hold slightly different beliefs, I associate with a General Conference (Atlanta) fellowship. No one within that fellowship cares about Catholic opinion. They care about Scripture.

  https://coggc.org/

  From a historian's perspective contrasts and conflicts are important. So while I might record shifting Catholic viewpoints of Protestant faiths, Catholic beliefs do not certify or call into question other faiths.
  
  
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  The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!

  by WingCommander in

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  link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.

  https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.

  if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.

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  I have mixed feelings. Exposing corruption is everyone's duty. Using illegal means is corrupt. I'll be interested in seeing the outcome.
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  Now that this thread has gone on for fifteen days or so, I have this question: Why would anyone care what the Catholic church thinks about another religion?
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  I seriously dont care if the Witness woman is related to a pope. To me it is irrelevant. .
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  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

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  Tempramentalism at its best. You could have said all of that in five sentences.
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  Question for JW's: Is Jesus the Mediator of Your Prayers ?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  praying to god “through the son jesus” has nothing to do with christ as mediator.. do jw's even know what a mediator does?.

  i am in the insurance restoration construction business and have been in mediation many times when a policy holder sues an insurance company for not paying everything they believe is due them under the terms of their policy for property damage.. i am brought in as a technical expert.. in mediation, the plaintiff (policy holder) and the defendant (insurance company) are placed in separate rooms, they do not talk to each other.

  they are separated because the dispute has alienated the one from the other.

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  Not mediator of prayers, but intercessor.