I dont think that they have the correct understanding of Romans 6:7
I don't think that you are justified by your death.
the one thing that got to me was that this religion is illogical.
their "logic" is ridiculous, especially when it comes to their blood doctrine.
downright weird!.
I dont think that they have the correct understanding of Romans 6:7
I don't think that you are justified by your death.
some business opportunities unfolded sometime back that required my full attention and excessive work hours that ended up putting a strain on me.
i started taking the edge off by drinking alcohol, too much alcohol.
the cycle of working and drinking ended up destroying my spirituality and i eventually completely quit attending meetings and every other aspect of kingdom service.
"but it seems that those that were once Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum have made an irreversible decision about avoiding their prior faith and have constituted themselves as an enemy to Jehovah's Witnesses."
I was a Jehovah's Witness. I don't think my decision is irreversible and I don't consider myself an enemy to Jehovah's Witnesses.
Only yesterday I met an elders wife in the supermarket and we chatted. I recently spoke to several other Witnesses who are regular attenders. I had a brother who is a relative come round for a meal recently and I do work for Witnesses.
I disagree with some of their teachings and I won't support them in their preaching about 1914. I know of others who actively go in service but avoid any talk regarding the significance of 1914. I can't do that. I think that Jehovah's Witnesses are proclaimers of the kingdom established in 1914.
The mistakes that have been made regarding certain dates and the general denial of things that have been said has made me question the bigger things.
The reasons I visit this site are varied. Mostly to challenge my views.
I hope for change.
jesus said, "truly i say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me".. .
exactly to whom was jesus addressing these words, and who were his "brothers?the subject matter of matthew chapter 25 deals with christ's judgement of all humans, and verses 32 & 33 make it crystal clear that there only two groups standing before him - 'sheep' and 'goats'.
keep in mind that during his ministry, jesus referred to himself as "the fine shepherd" who would give his life on behalf of his sheep.
I think there is only one hope and it is important to have that hope.
i never saw the king, live, in concert.
if i could've i would have wanted to see elvis.
i rarely listen to him but it would been great to see him in his prime.. and i would've loved it if i could have seen the 60's versions of the temptations!.
Queen
once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
okay just one thing clear, i'm an inactive unbaptized publisher n the main thing that makes me look down upon the wt is the false 607d date n the stories of ex bethelites...........now, for those of u who left and completely dropped their old beleifs esp.
the 'paradise' one, n now beleive they'l go to heaven.........i totaly dont know what to beleive right now, still asking lots of qs n reading alot of articles........in the mean time do u want to go to heaven?
like reeealy!!!!!!!
i dont think there is a scripture that supports a resurrection to the earth.
"i contend that we are both atheists.
i just believe in one fewer god than you do.
when you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why i dismiss yours.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts
By simply professing to be a Christian, you are by definition rejecting the existence of the following gods. You are an atheist against the following 610 gods. Why did you "throw out the baby with the bath water"?
I am a Christian and worship one God but I believe there are many gods. I don't believe in Santa Claus. I don't believe he exists. When I say I believe in Christ. I mean think he is real. In believing in him as real I believe he exists and so saying that it would follow I believe he is the one who died and was resurrected.
I also believe there are many gods. As a JW we believed that Jesus was a god. The devil was a god. The Insight On The Scriptures page 968 says
"Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god," (Which is interesting in that as witnesses we attribute no worship to jesus who is a god)
The 610 gods you list by this definition are gods I just don't worship them.
this has been an interesting science project to say the least.
here is what i have learned:.
you have about 6 types of people posting on jwn, they all fit into a profile.. #1 you have people like me that ran the race, exemplified conduct while in the jw cult and learned through observation that there was a severe disconnect between truth, and the jw cult's statements.
I don't think that it is that clear.
No 1. I was exemplary. I was recognized at work and school because of my good conduct. I was raised to believe that our conduct was either a good or a bad witness. I was never in trouble in the congregation. I was good in my conduct with the opposite sex. Turning down sisters advances for sex on more than one occasion and finally I was able to find reasons why it wasn't the truth as I thought it was.
No 2. In some ways I was a failure. I never made servant or elder or was never used as an adult to carry the microphone. I rarely answered and was on and off of the School some times for years at a time.
No 4. I've not heard voices but I have had bad supernatural experiences and I believe in demons.
No 5. I sometimes go to the Kingdom Hall but with years inbetween I don't believe most of it but it is warm and a good place to read the bible and recently spent half an hour encouraging a brother to continue to go.
No 8. I was raised in it and yes it was really hard going in the last ten years before I stopped.
I dont think you can categorize and classify people so easily. I think part of the problem for me in the hall was this. I was a brother and from a young age I remember sitting there thinking one day I'm supposed to be an elder and give talks etc. I had no desire to do any of those things but I did desire to please God and it was a great conflict as I got older.
once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
i'm trying to compile a list of j-dub beliefs that are not solidlysupported by scripture - examples: abstaining from wearing beards, "door-to-door" witnessing, hierarchical authority structure.... can you guys help me out with some that stand out to you?.
thanks in advance!.
Most of it in my view.