Well spoke to Ali privately about her interview with Llloyd. Def more there to the story though I promised not say much. So just fair warning we may not want to judge too harshly on it.
The parody always messes up everything. It will be over soon
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Well spoke to Ali privately about her interview with Llloyd. Def more there to the story though I promised not say much. So just fair warning we may not want to judge too harshly on it.
The parody always messes up everything. It will be over soon
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What really happened in Bramhall that led to Dijana being removed as a pioneer?
I'm sure Tom knew đ
And Evans papa also
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Could she be the one that told the elders about L.E. apostate site? Also major red flag for me here...Was there More than just talking about '' JW teaching'' with her? We are talking about Lloyd here! come on! at that time he was way to poor to afford prostitutes, the wife was either pregnant or just had a baby, so I could just imagine how he would have LOVED to have "conversation" with a young girl...I mean women
Your point is crazy but could also make sense. It's a thought but consider that unless the girl was fluent in English he couldn't communicate. It is not technically easy to convolute that kind of message without good communication. But hey you have a point there.
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But Lloyd couldn't bear to have them shun him whilst still in association with Dijana and the baby. He gets shunned, everyone gets shunned. Lloyd can do what he wants for himself and if a confrontation with the elders was what he wanted to do then go ahead. But don't drag your pregnant wife along with you who'd much rather fade.
Also it would be much more easier to control Dijana in a position of power. If Dijana faded he would have been left out although partially he was because the integration with the Croatian congregation was nil given the language barrier. Had he spoken the language probably we were talking about another story here. He would have been the same brother Evans and carried on his translation business profiteering from brothers and sisters alike rather than exjws.
From his reaction I strongly believe that he was terrified to have Dijana not completely out under his terms.
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back in the truth
Back in the truth?? đ¤
Anyway she did not
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a gung ho atheist
That's another marketing thing. Call me atheist to catch the attention of the atheists.
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Were they going to ask her about the nature of their relationship and what led her upon this path? Were they going to ask what she knew and what part she played in their escape from the UK?
They certainly would have. Lloyd must have assumed that Dijana was the weakest ring of the chain.
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Dijana wanted to wait until after she had Jessica to start to fade. She didnât want to DA however what Lloyd wants, lloyd gets.
If Dijana would have stayed in then the elders investigation would have never stopped. They would have asked Dijana what she knew about assuming that there was something "more concerning" than apostasy to be investigated.
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Even then she never said the words âI resignâ as he did and left it ambiguous enough for the elders to question the intent.
I wonder if Dijana falls under the "JW mindset" category based on Tibor's law
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My father was an elder and thatâs about how close I ever got to it but correct me if I am wrong, elders donât divulge that kind of information, especially something as huge as a Branch Rep coming down to see him from Zagreb.
You are right here.
Maybe other former elders can share their perspective too based on their experience but from what I know and remember when someone moves to another congregation and the person is under discipline the elders from the original congregation write a letter to the elder of the new one to inform them that XY and family are moving there. They simply mention that XY is under restrictions but they DO NOT tell you why. I believe things may be slightly different now for cases of paedophilia. But generally especially for porneia they won't tell. This is crucial.
The elders in Croatia couldn't possibly know what had happened in the UK unless
a) He mentioned it to them
b) someone had tipped them off
Perhaps Dijana told her parents who then told the elders. We do not know. But even if this really happened I struggle to see how the elders would be so worried for a simple case of watching porn or online sexting with girls. I mean they had a big fish there. An apostate maybe the first of its kind in a Croatian village. It would be a fab opportunity for an elder to put this on their "CV'. Who would care about the porn wanking when they had their local R Franz.
But then again he mentions in his masterpiece that one elder was concerned about things happened in the UK. How? Were they only rumors? If so they had no proof so they would have been meaningless in a JC.
That's why I say his story about the JC does not make sense at all. There are gargantuan holes in this story.
The only way for him to stop this Pandora's Box to be fully opened was to handle in the letter of disassociation. Pay also attention how he wanted badly Dijana out too. Why this rush? In the end one week or two what difference would have made? He went bonkers when they weren't so keen. Then another silly mistake from the elders (apparently). They phoned Dijana if I remember correctly. This would never happen. If they really did that then it would be a massive unorthodox procedure. So much for a Bethel rep to be there.