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The Real Aftermath of the AGM...
by raymond frantz ini didn't go to the agm nor was i invited .i didn't go to the sunday meeting either.i received a text though from a long standing ministerial servant that echoes the sentiment in my congragation at least.he was present at the meeting.no elder was there and all parts ,watchtower and public talk were handled by ministerial servants.he was incensed that he was not invited allthough he's been a servant for many years and always volunteered at the assemblies etc.
the absense of all these elders was very noticable .most of the congragation was uninformed for the "dog & ponny show" (sorry agm) and the reason i think was that they were embarrased to admit that only they were going to go.but the most upsetting thing for many is that only the ones that went to the agm got the new bible ,the rest will have to wait till january when the first supply arrives at the congragation.
also many have found out that the instruction is that the new bible has to be used from the congragation straight away at the meetings and field service .imagine the embarrasment to be sitting next to the in crowd with their new flashy bible !.
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Thank you New World Bible Translation Committee for removing the words, "mentally diseased" from 1 Tim. 6:4
by AndersonsInfo ini want to thank jehovah's witnesses new world bible translation committee for changing the words, "mentally diseased" as found in the 1984 edition of the nwt, to "obsessed with arguments," as found in 1 timothy 6:4 in the 2013 revised nwt.. on february 6, 2012, david splane, the overseer of the watchtower's writing department received an open letter from me which i posted below especially for new posters.
the topic of my letter was in response to the writing department's statement that ..."apostates are mentally diseased" in their july 15, 2011 watchtower.
the 1984 edition of the new world translation reads:.
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List down all the changes in the new NWT Bible vs the old NWT that has signifance to the JW beliefs
by UBM101 ini hope this thread can be a compilation of all the changes made.
it could serves as a good reference for those who want to help the loved ones to wake up.
please list down here all your findings if you don't mind.
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Ah! They DID slip in the words Governing Body!
by braincleaned inyep!
they did slip in the words governing body in the new revised nwt!.
page 1459, in the highlights of acts 15!
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From Prison to Prosperity - new JW.org video
by cedars inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofo9xmhis5c.
let no one say witnesses don't catch people at their most vulnerable, or use love bombing.. .
cedars.
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Videos of a few key moments from the Annual Meeting
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imfuiaeg820.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkjbvfpjpje.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezhj13pun4.
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BUM WITNESSES
by The Searcher incan anyone save me the stress of listening to the self-appointed faithful & discreet slave for 3 hours, and give a clue as to roughly at what point in the proceedings was the derogatory term 'bum witnesses used, and by whom?
i'd really love to extract that comment and send it to a weakening witness, to highlight the judgmental arrogance and name-calling being displayed.. many thanks in advance folks!.
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Recording meeting
by Fading Begins infirst 30 min announcing a collection of bibles collected from r & f that is to go on display at bethel.
also accounts of how they "miraculously" received bibles that they didn't think they could get - eg.
geneva bible.. now - watchtower study review as there is no meeting tomorrow..
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"Truth Brings Not Peace, But A Sword" talk Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 convention
by doughnutkitty ini'm at the convention now (by parental force) and i just heard in the saturday talk "truth brings not peace, but a sword" about how it's a terrible "torture stake" that witnesses are disinherited by their worldly families when they choose to join the jehovah's witness religion and how awful and painful that is for a person to endure.
switch the situation around and you'll find it is exactly what happens to those who choose to leave the organization, but only then is it okay because "disfellowshipped people need to be disciplined"?
this is absolutely ridiculous.
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Audio of Candace Conti and Bill Bowen at the RNA 2013 conference
by cedars inthe audio file is 1 hour 28 minutes in total.
the first hour is the panel speaking, and the remaining 28 minutes is the questions from journalists.. here is the link.... http://192.185.44.220/media/13austin/podcast/06%20precon_%20the%20continuing%20story%20pf%20clergy%20abuse%20beyond%20roman%20catholics.mp3.
candace conti in particular did an amazing job, and the comments from the journalists show how appreciative they were of her bravery in speaking out on such a personal issue.. bill was also informative with some of the firsthand accounts he was able to give.. .