Topics Started by Oroborus21

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2034 - A Future History of Jehovah's Witnesses
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.

back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.

those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.
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Kiss the son lest God be angry and you perish in the way
by Quotes in
1. jw
2. friends
in another thread, quentin reminded us all of the lyrics to one of the kingdom songs: .

"kiss the son lest god be angry and you perish in the way" .

my question is: .
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Nation of Islam 1914 belief
by Oroborus21 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
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i did not know before that the nation of islam had a 1914 belief that was akin to that of jws.. i thought this was interesting is all.. does anyone know whether this is a current teaching of theirs?

(googling it myself now...) but just thought i would throw it out to the knowledgeable crowd here..... -eduardo
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Whatever became of Rose Ball?
by moomanchu in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
where did she live?

did she have a family?

did she ever speak out for or against the witnesses?.
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The Watchtower's Great Game of "Jenga" and Exposure
by metatron in
1. jw
2. friends
jenga is a simple game in which wooden blocks are neatly piled up - and then removed, one by one, until one person ( the person who loses.

the game) makes the pile collapse.. it is tempting to see the organization in the same way - making small but significant "removals" over time.

they pull out food service.
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Al Capone vs. Judge Rutherford
by Farkel in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith alone...for as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also" - james 2: 24, 26

al capone vs. judge rutherford

al capone gained his power by exploiting the weaknesses of people.. judge rutherford gained his power by exploiting the weaknesses of people.
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Pioneer afraid to meet with elders commits suicide
by poopie in
1. jw
2. friends
they were afraid he would be df for something they did do instead of faceing possibility of being shunned commited suicide.
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Bro. Schroeder dies
by bythesea in
1. jw
2. friends
i just received this news from a bro who has connections in bethel.... .

bro albert d schroeder died at 10:30 am new york time today at brooklyn bethel...he was 94 yrs old.. he was born on april 7, 1911 in saginaw, michigan and entered bethel service in 1932. he was appointed a member of the governing body on december 18, 1974. bro schroeder's life story appeared in the march 1, '88 wt pages 10-17: entitled: "my life in jehovah's spirit-directed organization.".

i don't know if the "today" means it was actually today...as i can't be sure when my friend received this news... but anyway, another of the old guys bites the dust.. .
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Prometheus Among Us
by Oroborus21 in
1. jw
2. friends
note: although i wrote this many years before he died, it was the reading of crisis of conscience that inspired this poem and it is to the memory of raymond franz that i dedicate it and to all those both within and without the organization that desire change and that are working towards it.. "prometheus among us".

who would challenge the gods,.

or question what is divine?.
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Russellites ----> Bible Students ----> Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing in
1. jw
2. friends
in my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".

most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?

does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?