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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
ScenicViewer

Angus Stewart Paraphrase: "Individual congregations take their direction from the Australia branch which in turns takes its direction from the Governing Body"
Toole: That's right
This shows that yesterday Spinks lied when he said the Australian branch could act independently from the Governing Body. By saying that he was simply towing the party line and protecting the G.B. from responsibility. I feel Spinks did that in an effort to keep a G.B. member from having to appear at this proceeding.
The Commission is now dismantling Spinks testimony, perhaps. I hope their aim is to get a G.B. member there.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

Neither the judge nor Stewart is worried about getting DF'd!!!
Funny. And soooo sweet!
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

@ScenicViewer - pretty clear too that the commission is aware that their standards are hardly unchanging.
Yes, the Commission is on to Watchtower. It isn't buying much of anything Watchtower witnesses are saying. But I get the feeling that the Watchtower reps think they are being real smooth, and all theocratic.
I continue to be astounded at how knowledgeable the Commission is about Watchtower. They are incredibly bright and sharp to boot.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

Spinks just said that Watchtower will not change to conform to Gov't regulations when there is a clear scriptural principal to guide them that is at odds with the Gov't.
Justice Mclellan was not amused.
Problem is, Watchtower always says their teachings are solidly based on scripture. When any point of view changes, the new understanding will also be based on solid scripture, so they will say.
Watchtower's understanding of scripture is in a constant state of flux, there is nothing solid about it regardless of claims at any given time.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

Spinks was asked if the Australian branch decided that the two-witness rule was not a scriptural requirement could they proceed with that understanding without the Governing Body's approval.
Of course they could not, but he is hedging big time. Spinks will not give a straight answer.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

Theocratic War Strategy at work!
Spinks is saying that Organizational changes could happen in Australia without approval of the Governing Body.
He is simply trying to shield the GB from responsibility with the aim of not having a GB member come and testify.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

...if a victim wants to speak to a woman, they accommodate that. He then suggested there needed to be a similar outlet in the JW religion.
Watchtower could make that work if they wanted to, if they cared about children. The problem is that children, as well as all human life and welfare, are disposable to the Watchtower Organization.
Edit: If that ever did happen it would be 'New Light' worth having, as opposed to the 'overlapping-generation' gibberish that Watchtower is so proud of putting out there.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
ScenicViewer

The Dr. Applewhite remarks by Justice McClellan were very good. He said she came to defend Watchtower procedures but at the end of the day she acknowledged they were flawed.
The Organization's paid professional witness backfires!
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
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Just like Gerrit Losch, Geoffrey Jackson has given lame excuses why he shouldn't appear.
It would be so nice to see him there!
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WT Lawyer trying to force His Honour to allow Miss Apple to garner more info showing how good WT is
by umbertoecho in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
hello to all who are watching.

his honour is being tested by wt lawyer in the last thirty minutes of day 4. the lawyer wants to bring in updates on the societies handling of child molestation cases.. his honour tells the lawyer that if he "lawyer" wants a contest between who is better than who....forget it.. his honour is slightly pissed off as wt lawyer just won't back down and insists that this evidence is very important and........"progressive" ( i think ) his honour then continues to tell nice wt jerk type lawyer, that if he thinks this will dispel all that happened to past victims..........think again.. i rough summary but fairly accurate people......god, that wt lawyer is a hateful lying, scheming son of a bitch........
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Watchtower thought they were going to lawyer their way through this. Surprise!
I love this Commission.