Lack of transitional forms? Have you read up any scientific literature on evolution? This is a very basic misconception, for EVERY fossil is a transitional fossil.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol
by Sevan inso the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.
most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.
i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.
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Ahhh don't worry I sincerely hadn't even noticed the like/dislike addition
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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The only reason I commented on this thread, is the danger that a new member, a new lurker came and saw that post title and without the means to fact check it was misled.
Kate this is VERY dangerous.
I am 10years into medical training and I do not have the authority to make scientific conclusions, never mind a world changing conclusion that there is a deity driving evolution! You do not have anywhere near the education to state that. That aside, nobody does because there is NO evidence or reason to state it.
The danger of taking the lead Kate, is that some may follow. That's why scientists dedicate their life to maybe one theory they have, because if they misled science they would waste their life. You can't do half a chemistry course and then make the biggest conclusion in chemistry EVER made and post it on a religious forum as if you are an authority. It's not right.
We are pals Kate, this isn't personal. But let's be frank. You are out of your depth scientifically and you really don't have sufficient training, education or knowledge to discuss this or make these conclusions, decisions.
Let's be honest. You believe in God and you want to find a reason to believe. That's the truth and that's ok. But it puts your opening post and title thread in a very different perspective and let's be honest, you haven't found that reason to believe here in chemistry. Doesn't mean you won't. Had you, people would follow you to belief and also you would have just proven a deity with science.. Kate you'd be famous with a Nobel prize. So let's gently drift back down to reality, to facts and science.
You believe, you have faith, as assured expectation of things 'hoped' for. This can't be mixed with science unles you have hard facts. You can't fill in the inevitable gaps in human knowledge with....a Judeo-Christian deity, which what a coincidence.... Is your deity.
Kate, you left a high control group where a bunch of uneducated men made conclusions on the bible, on world history, on the very mind of a god they decided existed..... They have the blood and years of every human that followed them at their feet.
This is why people get angry at threads such as this. You still haven't realised the seriousness of your provocative title and the consequences of just one person ....just one visitor....assuming you had the authority to say what you said! You don't.
Maybe you should have started by admitting you do not have any significant qualifications in chemistry (you have admitted you didn't complete your course, of the 15+ people I know that did part of a degree, none claim any expertise or connection to that speciality..... Science is so detailed now....a degree is just an introduction to a science nowadays. I guarantee your Starbucks barista has a degree in chemistry! Mine did and my taxi driver had a degree in physics! He ran his own lab at one point!)
Then maybe made clear it was your religious belief alone.
If you believe in a god because of outdated chemistry questions long ago answered and proven, then can we assume that your belief in God is now gone? That evolution is not guided? We await your post.......
Until then, look again at what you have claimed when someone asked you..... Next time admit exactly what qualifications you have buddy X
"I conclude evolution is guided"
Your qualifications are way above mine so I'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
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Noah's ark once again. I hate beating a dead horse, but.
by James Mixon inthe altitude problem.
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everest today is 29042 feet high and i know some will say it.
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I can't believe adults are debating whether the ark was real or not. Seriously!
This is so sad and says much about belief and reality.
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The Elders want to meet with me and the hubby... Lol lol lol
by Sevan inso the elders called wanting to meet with me and my husband.
most likely because i told a concerned jw friend of mine that i really care about that i wasn't coming back and a couple of the issues i had.
i didn't bring up any so-called "apostate" information, just told her about the australian royal commission and that there are a lot of unscriptural teachings and that the gb apply scriptures that are about jehovah and jesus to themselves, which is idolatry.
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No matter how much you get tempted.... Do not go. It is a game. They own the rules, you can't win. They want to cut off your family and friends and ALL you have to do is turn up.
Just tell them your spirituality is personal and you don't wish to talk about it with anyone else right now.
Don't be tempted by nice, friendly, non-threatening requests to meet. They can give you spiritual help over a phone or via a letter or on their own, an individual, in your home.
Whatever they ask you, say you would prefer not to say as its personal. This way you keep your family/friends and it doesn't make things difficult... WELCOME TO OUR RULEBOOK 😏
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Brother & Sister-in-Law Return to Kingdom Hall After Two Decades, Quickly Get Stumbled
by TMS init was a mild surprise, learning that a brother and sister-in-law had began re-associating with jehovah's witnesses after at least 25 years of being away.
the couple, of hispanic ethnicity, are in their early 60's, with their five children all grown and independent.
the family had been considered nominal jws, infrequently attending meetings, rarely in field service, but using the annual convention as their family vacation.
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Only in a cult is menial work a privelage .....
up is down and down is up...
come join the sea-org for a billion years!
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Hello from the other side
by Theburstbubble inwell it's been 18 months since i left the witnesses.
my goodness what can i say?
well let's start from the beginning.... 1) i am happy, yes i am (i know im not meant to be as the jw's would like to believe).
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Awesome thread!
I'm properly 10 years out in August.
Never been happier. I'm financially secure. I'm in a relationship. I'm a doctor. I am emotionally,mentally and morally at peace. what I believe, I believe because of evidence and contemplation therefore I have no deep conflicts in belief. I have NO constrictions on thought, speech, action, company or feeling.
I indeed lost so, so many 'friends' and much of my family over time. In reality I never had these people, the relationships were conditional. This is not friendship, this is not love.
Now I am surrounded by people I like, I respect and there is nothing we don't/can't discuss. Friends are real friends, life long and unconditional.
Believe it or not, more of my family have now left than stayed. I never thought the day would come. But it happened. Seeing them become happy and free too is powerful.
For anyone contemplating leaving,...I only have ONE sadness, ONE regret. Ask anyone that has left and they will all say the same ...
i wish I had done it earlier, life is too short,,,,,
It is so painful to realise you wasted your childhood, your youth, your teens, your twenties, so much normality stolen. But truly, what balances this out, is being free now when so many JW's are not. If you are lucky and smart enough to have figured out it is all lies.... Take advantage and leave....get your family OUT,
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Noah's ark once again. I hate beating a dead horse, but.
by James Mixon inthe altitude problem.
mt.
everest today is 29042 feet high and i know some will say it.
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Fossils on top of mountains is no mystery.....
Those mountains used to be sea beds. Read up on how mountains and high land form.
next..... 🙄
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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Nature is the most famous scientific journal sources known.
Kate......No offence, you could not have done any credible chemistry education and not know that.
You really should retract everything you have said so as to not unfairly confuse people looking for sincere answers. You have diverted them from reliable sources and introduced issues long sho resolved.
Again, I'm blown away by your comments on Nature, it probably has the highest impact factor of all peer reviewed journals.
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Noah's ark once again. I hate beating a dead horse, but.
by James Mixon inthe altitude problem.
mt.
everest today is 29042 feet high and i know some will say it.
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Or he didn't exist .....
or he didn't say those things.....
or he was just a man......