Posts by Vakian

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

OnTheWayOut,im not gay and i didnt want to have sex with her,i was introduced to her by a friend of mine wich is my currently drummer in my band and she asked me to help her out with guitar,so i did and i noticed we were very alike and had many things in commun,i dont like the idea of casual sex without dating the person of even loving the person,before i liked her we become rly close friends,friendship can happen even if if we have a 4 year diference

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

OnTheWayOut,im not gay and i didnt want to have sex with her,i was introduced to her by a friend of mine wich is my currently drummer in my band and she asked me to help her out with guitar,so i did and i noticed we were very alike and had many things in commun,i dont like the idea of casual sex without dating the person of even loving the person,before i liked her we become rly close friends,friendship can happen even if if we have a 4 year diference

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

i see your point jgnat,she is a very open minded person,only not in religion,and already very mature for her age,abit more mature than me in some aspects,i guess living with her mother only contributed to that as her father lives in other city and is a non jw.

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

snowbird what u mean by breathing room?

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

well when i first met her i didnt know anything about her religion,only 2 months later,and vaguely,i just started to understand much latter what it was all about

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

ok changed the name of the topic,sry about that snowbird

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

but here what u see the most at that age are guys who want recreational relationships,and not a rly steady one,and as i said im willing to wait for marriage

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

well actually her mother is the opposite,she prefers older guys cause here,and in many other places,the ones of her age are all perverted assholes,so the problem for her never was the age.Besides that when i was 18 and met her mother i didnt want to date her we were only friends for almost a year,her mother knew me well when i started to like her.

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

oh im from portugal,so im from no state xD

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In a a very bad situation...

by Vakian in

hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.. well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.. from what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.. we talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness?

and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them?

wich she replied "dunno...".i still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.. anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.. she still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.

Vakian

Hello all,so im in a rly bad situation,it all started when i became friends with a jw girl 2 years ago,we got along pretty well,we had and still have lots of things in commun,and i was helping her out with playing electric guitar and all,anyway,has time passed by i started to fall in love with her,and well i did about 6 months later,and was then i started to search info about the jws as i knew they were pretty strict.

Well the more and more i learned the more weird and cultish this religion seemed,from the failed prophecies to the occultistic and masonic roots and many many more,well i still confessed i love her anyway about 4 months after,as she never tried to convert me or preach to me and we rly felt a strong connection.

From what ive seen her congregation isnt very strict her best friend is a non jw and the regular friends she usually hangs out are too,also she said there was no problem with any kind of sex even though i searched and saw oral sex was forbidden.

We talked some times about her religion wich didnt go to well for me,only last time sort of did wich was about 3 months ago where i asked if you are homosexual u can still be a witness? and if so then its strange as u cant go to paradise?wich at first she stated that yeah you can,jehovah would change u into hetero in paradise earth wich i replied that it would be stupid cause part of the essency of the person would be lost and if he or she had someone that loved alot then they would stop loving each other and love should be unconditional so what other option there was than kill them? wich she replied "dunno...".I still cant talk about her religion very openly cause im afraid she will think im trying to change her ways of thinking and will go in defense mode.

Anyway was her mother supposly only would let her date at 16,she was 14 at the time and me 18,i said supposly cause it seems she developed some hatred for me,at first she was all nice(trying to convert me stage),and invited me to things ,told me i was very good at guitar,and let her daughter be with me many times,has time passed and she started to realize i had no interest for their religion she started getting more cold and letting her come to my house less and less and not allow her to go out with me so often.

She still is the same with me in the outside though,but i know she is faking it,even her daghter said she was rly cynic,and her mother told her she tough i was manipulative,vain and she was beeing illuded and used by me.(Even though im the one who has to wait 1 year and half for her)

Well there is now 1 month away from her beeing 16 and were not sure if her mother will let her or not,i personally belive part of her beeing like this is me not beeing a jw an her not wanting her daughter to date anyone that is a non jw.

Also i was thinking lately she wont possibly allow cause she will be not as good seen in the congretation if she lets her daughter date me,what is your toughts on this?

Also we already talked about marriage,and we both agreed that if our relationship got further we would get married in a few years,im now taking psychology and she will too in the future,i also thought taking psychology would help her see hse is beeing controled?

To conclude well thanks for your time, i just wanted to share my story,feel now free to share your toughts on my situation