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  Urban Myth?!

  by Tesha in

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  howdee all!.

  i have only recently been df'd, so i struggle with what i believe regarding god and the bible.

  as you all would know, its a long process reprogramming our minds from all the lies and shit we were taught by the organisation.

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  Armageddon is a place, not a battle, and that battle in Rev 16:14 will happen AFTER the 1000 year reign.
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  Biblical, Christian "Morals"

  by Norm in

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  many people seem to think that moral end ethics would be unknown if it werent for the bible.

  the moral of the bible when examined thoroughly is to say the least, extremely relative.

  looking at the hebrew scriptures it becomes clear that moral and law was pretty much a tribal and ethnic phenomenon.

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  Looking at the Ten Commandments it is pretty clear that these were exclusively for the Jews.
  “You shall not kill” didn’t include killing non-Israelites. Moses was a murderer, but this was no problem since his victim was an Egyptian. Coveting other men’s wives was only wrong if the other man was an Israelite.

  People from other Semitic tribes could be killed and the women they did not kill were used for sexual pleasures by their Hebrew conquerors. Adultery was said to be evil, but both Abraham and Isaac tried to pass their wives off as their sisters, even though this meant having them sexually used by Abimelech, king of Gerar. Adultery also seems to have been wrong only when women did it. Judah treated his daughter in law Tamar as a prostitute and then proposed to kill her when she became pregnant. The commandments also prohibited “bearing false witness”, but Moses lied as best he could to Pharaoh, a good example of what the Watchtower Society call “Theocratic war strategy”. “Do not steal” is another one, but that didn’t stop the Israelites from robbing the Egyptians blind when they left Egypt. All the gold they stole was used to make the “Golden Calf” later. Killing and robbing other tribes was considered legitimate by the Israelites.

  All BEFORE the Mosaic law covenant.... then I notice that the next person you attack from the Bible is Jesus.....

  I think your motives are clear to all.
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  Sign of the Beast

  by seedy3 in

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  i just finished watching a program on the book of revelation.

  it was a very interesting program.

  but one thing i came out with was a puzzle.

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  L i ars,

  You say that the WTS is the 2nd beast in Rev 13, which appears with horns like a lamb, and speaks as a dragon. Is this not the beast that enforces the "mark"?

  The mark of the beast is baptism as a JW.

  Frank
  

  Now, take this product and add the amount of change in your left pocket and divide that number by Claudia Schiffer's IQ.

  Division by zero is impossible...
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  Biblical, Christian "Morals"

  by Norm in

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  many people seem to think that moral end ethics would be unknown if it werent for the bible.

  the moral of the bible when examined thoroughly is to say the least, extremely relative.

  looking at the hebrew scriptures it becomes clear that moral and law was pretty much a tribal and ethnic phenomenon.

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  My point is you used examples before the law was written to show your ideas on the law, which doesnt work.
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  Introduce My Self

  by Treborr Jones in

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  i would like to introduce myself.

  i do not want to be in here under false pretenses.

  my name is robert howard.

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  Hi

  I've spent many hours on your site. Dont agree with lots of it, but it is very interesting.
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  Spiritual Food at the right time?

  by aud8 in

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  i have another question.

  i am a jw who is engaged to marry a catholic.

  i have had all the talks etc from the elders and i am now 'marked' for the benefit of other young ones in the congregation i.e.

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  Revelation 13:14 could be an explanation....
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  Biblical, Christian "Morals"

  by Norm in

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  many people seem to think that moral end ethics would be unknown if it werent for the bible.

  the moral of the bible when examined thoroughly is to say the least, extremely relative.

  looking at the hebrew scriptures it becomes clear that moral and law was pretty much a tribal and ethnic phenomenon.

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  Hey, Norm...

  Do you realise that some of the examples you gave were infact from a time before the Law?
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  Sex before marriage and contraception.

  by inquiringmind in

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  i am not a jw, but my future husband is.

  we don't broach the subject much of religion, as it only causes arguments, as we see things differently.

  i would like to know the jw views on sex before marriage, and contraception.

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  What is sex?
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  Bulger killers release - just?

  by digderidoo in

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  with the news that the killers of jamie bulger have been released, it would be interesting to know how people feel.. from the mcveigh thread it seems that many americans believe the death penalty would have been appropriate.. i do not know whether many in the us know of the case in britain of a 2 year old being tortured and murdered by two 10 year olds.

  but now 8 years later they have been released.. i know of the arguments that they have been rehabilitated since killing jamie bulger.....but is this really justice?

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  Abaddon, You have pretty much said it all.

  RCat, you are a petty, stupid, ignorant woman. Do you have any friends? If you do, they must be just like you cos im sure no real people would want to know evil like you.
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  We have named them!

  by LDH in

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  eden got two kittens over the weekend.. it took about 36 hours but we have decided on names.. the boy is george and the girl is weezy.. a prize to whoever guesses correctly first.

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  Fred and Sue sound like good names for cats.

  Lable the the litter box "Kingdom Hall"