Posts by Este

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How did the 1919 GB know they were chosen ?

by Phizzy in

the present gb/fds claim a kind of apostolic succession going back to the now claimed first appearance of the fds in 1919.. i don't think anywhere is it made clear who made up the fds then, but let us go along with the fiction, (in reality we know only rutherford really ruled the roost) and assume there was a group of guys who were the fds, how did they know they were chosen as such ?.

there obviously is nothing in the wt writings of the time as all this is noo lite, so, if they did not know their heaven appointed role, why would they carry it out, except by accident?

and if so, how could they possibly produce "food at the proper time "?.

Este

They knew because the FDS told them so.

Romans Chapter 8

12So, then, brothers, we are under obligation, not to the flesh to live in accord with the flesh;13for if ?YOU? live in accord with the flesh ?YOU? are sure to die; but if ?YOU? put the practices of the body to death by the spirit, ?YOU? will live.14For all who are led by God's spirit, these are God's sons.15For ?YOU? did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but ?YOU? received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: ?"Abba,? Father!"16The spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are God's children.17If, then, we are children, we are also heirs: heirs indeed of God, but joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer together that we may also be glorified together.out

Without a doubt a person will know when they are chosen. The spirit compells you to do things in accordance with GOD's will.

Estephan

The G.B. claim to be chosen in order to claim a degree of authority over the congregation. They are not the faithful and discreet slave otherwise they would teach that the slave is only one person. There is no basis for their teaching that the slave is comprised of 144,000.

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

Have a good day.....

Estephan

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

I am having a hard time believing these people have ever heard this so-called good news. What language do you think these people speak, Este? How would you preach to them?:

Thats what I mean by Jesus Christ and the twelve apostles being the only ones that can accomplish this. There could exist people that have never even heard of the bible. GOD knows all languages and of course so does Christ.

Estephan

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Christ and the twelve apostles will accomplish this preaching because no others can do it. It has to be done in truth and they know the truth.

E.

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

OK, so you cannot name a single prophecy that came true.

So, can you show how your math is Biblically sound?

Jesus was born that is a prophecy you cannot dispute.

Here is where wisdom comes in: Let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a man's number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

How are we to calculate it? The bible does not tell us how. So I chose to multiply and divide since they are used in the bible. A house divided cannot stand and be fruitful and multiply etc. etc. And 911 was the number that I derived from my calculations......

Estephan

I am done for the night, time to retire....have a great night.....agape

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

That prophecy doesn't mention the Patrio Act. You are simply saying it is.

Can you give provide an example of a prophecy that specifically and umabiguously describes an event that came true?

Oh, and you still haven't shown how your math is biblically supported.

No prophecy is specific, you have to relate it to the events in history in order to know its fulfillment.....the birth of Christ was foretold but was not specific.

Therefore the LORD Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14)

14Therefore Jehovah himself will give ?YOU? men a sign: Look! The maiden herself will actually become pregnant, and she is giving birth to a son, and she will certainly call his name Im?man′u?el.

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

That's not proving it using the Bible. Can you or can you not do it?

You also forgot to name one prophecy you have seen come true.

And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

This is the 911 attacks in New York (Prophecy one)

And they worshiped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshiped the wild beast with the words: "Who is like the wild beast, and who can do battle with it?" 5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it.

The United States recieved authority for 42 months under the patriot act (Prophecy two)

7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation

The patriot act gave worldwide jurisdiction to the United States and they waged war with those in the holy land, or the holy ones. (Prophecy three)

The events in the Middle East after the 911 attacks fulfills many prophecies one right after the other......read it again now that you can relate it to the 911 attacks with better understanding.

Estephan

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

It's really not.

Revelation is not a magical book.

Let it go.

Is that all you have to say? Not much in response now is it?

E.

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

OK, but you used arbitrary numbers not in the Bible. Why does your calculation matter? Can you prove it is solid, Biblically speaking?

the calculation helps to identify the wild beast. The 911 attacks commenced the war in the holy land where the nations trampled. It changed the world as we know it.

Now the wild beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were as those of a bear, and its mouth was as a lion's mouth. And the dragon gave to [the beast] its power and its throne and great authority.

The wild beast is The United States along with Great Britain, and Spain.

U.S., U.K., Spain draft resolution on Iraq

Monday, February 24, 2003 Posted: 2:47 PM EST (1947 GMT)

leopard (Panthera pardus) is a member of the Felidae family with a wide range in some parts of Africa and tropical Asia, from Siberia, South and West Asia to across most of sub-Saharan Africa. It is listed as Near Threatened on the IUCN Red List because it is declining in large parts of its range due to habitat loss and fragmentation, and hunting for trade and pest control. It is regionally extinct in Hong Kong, Singapore, Kuwait, Syrian Arab Republic, Libya and Tunisia.[1]

The lion (Panthera leo) is one of the four big cats in the genus Panthera and a member of the family Felidae. With some males exceeding 250 kg (550 lb) in weight,[4] it is the second-largest living cat after the tiger. Wild lions currently exist in sub-Saharan Africa and in Asia (where an endangered remnant population resides in Gir Forest National Park in India) while other types of lions have disappeared from North Africa and Southwest Asia in historic times.

Bears are mammals of the family Ursidae. Bears are classified as caniforms, or doglike carnivorans, with the pinnipeds being their closest living relatives. Although only eight species of bears are extant, they are widespread, appearing in a wide variety of habitats throughout the Northern Hemisphere and partially in the Southern Hemisphere. Bears are found on the continents of North America, South America, Europe, and Asia.

Two European Nations and ONe Nation from America

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The Truth of the Matter Is.......

by Este in

it's the end of the world does anyone disagree?.

Este

And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration. 4 And they worshiped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshiped the wild beast with the words: "Who is like the wild beast, and who can do battle with it?

The death stroke is the 911 attacks in New York city........