regarding the tragedy in gresham this last week, i have nothing but sadness for the loss of that young life, and nothing but sympathy for the family and friends that mourn her.
i do, however, see the attempts being made to make sure everyone "knows" that the alleged killer was not a "real witness.".
i was raised as a jehovah's witness and remember the conversations that surrounded any criminal action by a member of the congregation.
@ tenyearslater the guy Holt was an "irregular witness" in the same hall as Whitney and her husband. He and his wife aso lived in the
same apartment complex as Whitney.
The family made it a point to issue a statement saying the Holt was irregular.
http://www.nwcn.com/news/175234091.html
It's a sad story any way you slice it.
what do you wish people told you when you were younger?.
Get out of your own head! Don't be so paranoid about the end of the world or about what "friends" think of you.
Take those rose-colored glasses off and stop thinking people are truely nice deep down. That will save you from getting your feelings hurt repeatedly. See people for who they are based on their actions and their statements about themselves.
It's okay not to be friends with everybody. It's okay not to want to be in a religion. It's okay to disagree.
Go on more vacations!! Spend the weekends doing nothing or everything you want to do!
so as you get farther along in your pregnancy and you get bigger and bigger, certain bodily functions are hard to control.
the other day my husband, son and i went out for a nice lunch.
we were dressed up and really enjoying ourselves, when it happened.
Tell me about! Lol. I'm going into my 8th month and I've never been so gassy in my life.
I don't even have to think about passing gas, it just toots on it own now.
I was having a converstion with three ladies in a tight space and BAM! I tired to play it off like it wasn't me. The only thing was, the baby started moving around as if she was responding, " Finally! Thank you! More space." LOL Dead Give away.
(I imagine conversations with her already based on her movements.)
But hay that's a part of being a mommy! =]
for some reason the doubts came lurking back again.
i know this religion is messed up because a person should not be having creeping doubts surface up like this.
i have not posted or logged on to this site in a very long time.
If he truely cares for you, he will be understanding. He may not totally understand the FULL MENTAL context of what it is like being a JW, but he will be a shoulder to lean on. And I highly doubt he'll be overwhelmed. Most "wordlies" don't give a rat's a$$ about JWs and their beliefs. Not in a rude way, but they honestly don't put as much importance on it as the society makes JWs blieve.
I know for myself, with my own fade, I would not have been able to do it if my boyfriend at the time was not such a great listener. I told him I felt as if I was using him as a crutch, but really he was lifesaver. It took so much of me just to open up and get out of my own head. I was paranoid about a lot of things. Sometimes he would chuckle and giggle, or straight out laugh at some of the things I was so serious about. That would make me so mad, but then again it helped me realize just how silly being a JW is and was, and the things I was paranoid about really didn't hold any merritt.
Tell him the truth. You'll probably feel a great relief after you are done being open and honest with him.
Good Luck and Happy Fading!
ya know what!
i'm tired of being polite and nice to jws.
esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
@steve2: You're so right. I tried telling her that she is the matriarch of of family and as such I love her, respect her, and honor her and always will irregardless of the fact of being a JW.
She told me, "No don't say that. All honor and glory goes to Jehovah. I am nothing. Just a servant of Jehovah." Geeze, she has a serious complex that runs really deep.
I threw my hands up and walked out.
I love my grandmoher and I will continue to love her. That is why it is so hard just to write her off. But right now it is so hard to try to even talk to her.
*le sigh*
ya know what!
i'm tired of being polite and nice to jws.
esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
perfect1: LOL! we just might be related. But so true, you try to respect older ppl becasue that is the right thing to do, but they think they can say whatever they want. Well then, they should be able to HEAR whatever is said in respone. Hell, they are adults.
ya know what!
i'm tired of being polite and nice to jws.
esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
@ Christ Alone: exactly, I never unserstood why there has to be degrees to who and what comes first.
@ paintedtoenail: My fiance said they same thing. I should just start shunning her and all other JWs. I really want to, but I love my grandmother. This was the first time I've ever spoken to her on this level as an adult. But now that I am becoming a mother, I am begining to realize that I have to protect my child from negative comments like the ones she says.
I'll admit it is hard. I still feel as if there should be a family bond in place before anything or any religion, but i guess not. And also, there are some JWs I see and they are nice and polite and ask how I am doing. I am very selective about who I share my business with, so I don't know if I should do things on a case by case bases. hmmmmm.....
@hoser: I'll look for that article. I know there is a Nov 2012 mag that my mom left out and about one day at her house about questioning religion or organized religion or something like that.
@ never a jw: It does make me cringe, but at the same time I have met several head honchos who have said the same thing. SO WAKE UP!!!! ugh! It makes me upset, because there are JWs who know the publications are phoney as baloney, but still ascribe to the whole routine. And then there are those JWs who can't think their way out a paper bag, and they would take this elder's statement and use it to prove and back up everything they can about the org.
Can someone please make a timemachine. I wish I would have walked away sooner. I really want my childhood back. LOL!!!
in some of my cursory readings about mormons, they seem to be as cultish as jws, but i don't know as much about them.
what are some of the similarities you see in them and jws?.
Hahaha! I remember one time in service, the JW group I was with had kind of like a old school western showdown with some Mormons.
I swear, two brothers and two mormons approached a pathway to a door at the same time. It was like they had standoff right there.
LOL!! I swear it was so funny to watch. The sisters across the street all gasped and watched in horror as if someone was going to get hurt.
My partner and I started were so silly. We started sining the old school Mexican Standoff song from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
Hahahahaha! I still get a belly laugh from that.
The Mormons walked away, and the sisters werer like, "Oh, it's victory for Jehovah." GAG!!
But later the Mormons rolled passed us in their Toyota and mean mugged us. It felt like everything was in slow motion! As if they were going to do a drive-by shooting with literature. It could have been a scene from a gangster movie. Everyone just frooze unitl they drove away. LOL!!
ya know what!
i'm tired of being polite and nice to jws.
esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
I feel better letting all that out.
ya know what!
i'm tired of being polite and nice to jws.
esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
Ya know what! I'm tired of being polite and nice to JWs. Esp when they try to shame you to your face with a smile.
Even more so when they are in my family! But I’ve just about had with my JW family. I really want to scream at my grandma. Every time - and I know it’s my own fault -I go to her house to visit, she slyly tries to tell me that I ought to be ashamed of my decision to leave the truth.
Yesterday, I went off on her. She is in her 70s and I just couldn’t take it. I’m pregnant right now, and maybe it was the hormones, but I went off.
She said she read the text a few days ago and the topic was about those ppl who have left the truth and their probably ashamed of themselves and regret their decisions and all they need to do is talk to the elders.
I said, “Well that doesn’t apply to me. I am not ashamed of anything I’ve done. I’ve made my choices and I stand by them.”
She said with a smirk, “You’re not?”
“Nope. And besides no elder in the two years that I have left has ever came by to check on me. And do you really think that now that I am pregnant I’m going to waddle my ass in there and “confess” and try to be all shamed face? For what? If they cared THAT much they should have brought themselves around and said something to me a long time ago. Everybody knows where I live and if they don’t, they sure as hell can find out! Hell, last I heard everybody in the circuit knows I’m pregnant. And I wonder whose big mouth said something.”
She didn’t say anything back.
And what pisses me off the most. She told me to my face she isn’t coming to my baby shower, because my fiancé and I aren’t married yet.
OH LORDY! She made me so mad with that one.
I called her a hypocrite.
Just two months ago, a non JW niece of hers had a baby shower (And mind you she is not married) and my grandma was so0o0o0o excited and happy to go to that baby shower. This is a niece she hasn’t seen in over five years!! I have never ever met the cousin in my life, because when we were little THAT side of the family was off limits because they weren’t JWs.
So now all of a sudden, it’s okay to go to a non-believer’s celebration, because “oh they don’t know any better; show pity on them” mentality. But for her own flesh and blood granddaughter, she will NOT attend my baby shower because I stopped “believing, underlying a damn magazine, and bothering ppl on Saturday mornings”??
Grrrrr!!! WTF??????????
I asked her shouldn’t family come first. Her instant automatic reply, “NO! Jehovah comes first.”
There is no getting into her head.
I cried and I got so mad in the same minute. I feel bad for going off on my grandmother like that, but DAMN IT! I’m tired of being polite and bitting my tongue when these folks think they have whatever right to say what they want to you just because of a watchtower org!! It's sick.
I ran into old two sisters from my old hall the other day doing table witnessing. Force of habit, I just smiled. They looked at my belly and looked up at me, and gave me the most evil mean mug ever!
Goodness, I just wanted to punch them in the face!!!
