Posts by MeanMrMustard

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

Joey jojo:

It's not defamation, not legally. You may feel like he has a case against those statements, but he does not.

The truth is always a defense against defamation. That means, it doesn't matter how it "feels" or how scandalous it could be, he admitted, in a video, that he goes to see prostitutes on a regular basis in locations where it's illegal. Taking note of that is not defamation.
As a neutral observer, the amount of judgment on this thread is breathtaking.
Where did the idea come from that when you leave JWs you stop judging people, as if applying morality is immoral?! What kind of postmodern think is this?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

.... I've had a look at the defamation laws in the us and uk, aren't some of you a little concerned about making these accusations on a public forum?
No.
It's possible he went there for hot fudge packing action with definitely-older-than-20-year-old gay Jewish black Thai dudes.
Was that an accusation?
Also, he's a public figure. Factual statements must be made with "actual malice", a standard nearly impossible to meet.
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Lloyd Evans is a train wreck.
by mickbobcat in
1. social
2. current
i don't know if someone has already posted this, but lloyd has put up a video talking about his hooking up with hookers.

personally that does not bother me but the way he is handling it is such a god damn train wreck.

this guy is insane..
MeanMrMustard

@RandR:
It's the Alec Baldwin syndrome.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

When you leave the WT, it doesn't mean all moral standards are discarded.
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

I haven't really watched any of his stuff... have I been shunning him?
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

@NewlyEnlightened: Sounds like he is generally an asshole.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

This doesnt sound like an "oh-I-was-weak-and-couldn't-help-myself-in-the-moment-around-these-hot-gay-jewish-black-dudes-from-Thailand" sort-of scenario.

Sounds like he planned the trips. Think of all the opportunities someone would have to turn away from that course of action - the car, the airport, the other airport, hotel. There's nothing sudden about it. The decision stretches out over weeks, including planning.
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It begins norway no money for wt because of shunning
by Yomama in
1. jw
2. friends
organized shunning will stop when money stops.
MeanMrMustard

It would be better if 1) he just states he was wrong, with a little mea cupla, 2) owns it, and 3) and this would be the ultimate in awesomeness - publish a book along side of Carl Olaf Jonsson.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

@vienne:
That would be the icing on the cake - a full confession (Thailand, leather chaps, elephants, circus music, and elderly transgender gay Jewish black dudes) at the end of his book, in the last few paragraphs. Nobody ever made it that far, so he was safe.
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It begins norway no money for wt because of shunning
by Yomama in
1. jw
2. friends
organized shunning will stop when money stops.
MeanMrMustard

Furuli maintains in his blog My Beloved Religion that 32 of the 43 disfellowshipping offences mentioned in Shepherd the Flock of God are made up by the GB and have no Bible backing. He also maintains that neither shunning nor disassociation are based on the Bible. Whether or not he enforced shunning and towing the WT line before being disfellowshipped I do not know.

I have to admit, I don't keep up with the latest from Furuli. But thanks for pointing me toward his blog.

But I can see by the dates on the articles (late September 2020), he published well after being DFed. So either his experience of being dfed led him to examine other doctrines and he changed his mind on those too, or these were held prior to being to dfed.

And on his blog, he still claims that he believes the WT is still the one true religion.

"Its the Truth!, except for these 50+ things"

As I have stated, I don't agree with the government getting involved. But it's interesting to see how fast he ran to the government to gain leverage. I think a lot of people have that reaction because they want their family to behave differently. I think Furuli wants to force them to listen to his doctrine. He's so concerned now, but he could have sent that letter long ago. He didn't because he was in the organization and wanted to climb the ranks.