To answer the thread’s question: No. If you are a flaming leftist, and make a good product, there is a good chance I’ll buy. If I don’t agree with your candidate, and you are willing to be professional and work toward a common goal, then I’ll work with you. No problem.
MeanMrMustard
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Has Your Political Views Affected Your Buying Habits or Entertainment?
by minimus inwill you avoid nike or tend to not buy apparel because of their support of colin kap?
would you stop doing business with anyone simply because you disagree with their politics?
in california, in and out burger, democrats were being told not to support the chain because they donated to republicans.. will politics affect your spending habits?.
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Has Your Political Views Affected Your Buying Habits or Entertainment?
by minimus inwill you avoid nike or tend to not buy apparel because of their support of colin kap?
would you stop doing business with anyone simply because you disagree with their politics?
in california, in and out burger, democrats were being told not to support the chain because they donated to republicans.. will politics affect your spending habits?.
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MeanMrMustard
This would have been far more effective IMHO...
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Alex Jones, Infowars Ban on Youtube, FB and other platforms
by pleaseresearch inwhat are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
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MeanMrMustard
It’s because a left/right continuum should work like a real continuum.
I understand that I am bucking against the traditional catigorizations here. This has happened on several threads now, but it’s because the left/right dichotomy is not logical, at least not in the way it’s used now. And recently it has become blatently obvious that its just another labelization tool for identity politics.
Look, I would be more than happy to admit that our categories deserve a bit of nuance. However, if... IF.... you want to break the world of political ideologies, a world that has many dimensions, into a single dimension continuum, then you have to choose a scale that makes sense. It can’t be that authoritarian socialist are on the far left, but then if you add a touch of nationalism, you are suddenly all the way to the right. That is a clue that the metric being used is nonsense.
So if you want one dimension, fine. But it has to be something more fundamental. That is why I place people like David Duke on the left. He flat out denies human rights come from our humanity. To him they are given by the government. This is fundamentally what leads to leftist atrocities - if rights are given, there is no moral reason why they can’t be taken away.
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Alex Jones, Infowars Ban on Youtube, FB and other platforms
by pleaseresearch inwhat are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
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MeanMrMustard
Bitchute.com = 57% funded.
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Alex Jones, Infowars Ban on Youtube, FB and other platforms
by pleaseresearch inwhat are you thoughts on this?.
i find this alarming because jones was very outspoken and had great guests on discussing topics most other media outlets wouldn't go near.. the fact that many have restricted him access to their medium what does this say on our freedoms of speech?.
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MeanMrMustard
@_Moroheus:
Easy - David Duke and Louis Farrakhan are on the left. They may have been historically placed on the “far right”, but ideologically speaking, fundamentally, they are on the left.
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“Monkey this up”...
by minimus inthat expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
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MeanMrMustard
@em1913:
Also, and if you feel it’s not vanity and striving after the wind:
The great New England fortunes of early America were largely built on the slave trade -- and those of us here are only just beginning to come to terms with that.
What do you mean by “come to terms with that”? Clearly you were talking about slavery in New England. What does coming to terms with slavery look like to you? What specific things would have to occur before you say “Wow, we’ve really come to terms with that.”
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“Monkey this up”...
by minimus inthat expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
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MeanMrMustard
@em1913:
If you feel this is pointless, then you don’t have to respond.
You say that you are looking at capitalism “in practical application.” Fine, alright. Then you should to be able to write a sentence or two, it doesn’t have to be long, and tell me how this occurs.
Define capitalism. I did it for you, so now your turn. Then, write a couple of statements showing *how* and *why* capitalism ITSELF is racist.
Note: this is still my *original* question to you.
If you like, you can use the example of the black codes. In your previous post, you encouraged me to go look it up more - because they really, really, really were an extension of capitalism.
No - that’s now how this works. YOU made the positive claim. I could go off for hours and research it, and when I come back with the same objection, you’ll simply say I need to look more. Nope. It’s your claim, your example, and it doesn’t show structural racism in capitalism. If you want me to think otherwise, try writing something. You’ve written long posts of almost pure BS and conjecture so far. How about a little focus... just one statement, one paragraph that actually answers my question.
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85
“Monkey this up”...
by minimus inthat expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
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MeanMrMustard
I remember quite clearly, my 9th grade history teacher.... looked so much like a frog. Even the way he cut his hair accented the look. I mean it was freaky. He was Puerto Rican. Is that racist?
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“Monkey this up”...
by minimus inthat expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
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MeanMrMustard
@em1913:
No, capitalism doesn’t “use” racism. Capitalism is a system of private property and free voluntary exchange, it doesn’t “use” racism in any way. You cite many examples of racism, and all are true. No debate there. And those examples are historical, no debate. But you seem to completely and utter misapply them to an economic system, and then conclude the most ironic things.
For example, you cite the “black codes”. You could have just as easily cited the Jim Crow south too. These things actually happened, and they were horrible. But they were laws enacted by government. The black codes were a set of *laws*. That has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism. Those are good examples of racist individuals grabbing the power in government to force their racist conception of the world onto everyone. A good question to ask is: why did they feel they needed to enact laws to accomplish their goals if in fact the racism was already “baked in” to the economic system? In reality, markets tend to beat away racists, as they quickly become economic losers.
What about slavery? Slaves were used, for all sorts of things, before it was abolished - all true. But it wasn’t because it’s baked into capitalism itself. These were people that thought less of other races independent of the economic system. How do we know? Because we see slavery under all sort of economic structures.
And that, is the great irony here. The greatest fundamental principle of capitalism is private property rights. You own yourself and your labor. It was this very principle that pushed for the ultimate abolition of slavery. And yet... yet... you advocate for the system that would give ultimate power to a centralized authority, a system that you have shown by your own examples to give you the exact result you reject!
A few words about economics and faith: I believe here you also mischaracterize the situation. If you advocate for a general theory of something - that is you claim you figured out how something works and you have a universal principle worked out, and then someone comes along and thinks for a few minutes and starts listing ways your principle fails, it has nothing to do with faith. It is simply someone being shown to be incorrect.
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“Monkey this up”...
by minimus inthat expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
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MeanMrMustard
Good Lord, more Morphs Law in action.
Go here to brush up on Morphs Law:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4739524539187200/morphs-law
I don't agree that the good Austrians proved anything, except to those already inclined to accept those beliefs.
You said this in your previous post, and it is perfectly OK, in my opinion, to say. But what follows this statement is more of the same crap that appears in earlier posts. It’s fine to disagree. But it’s not fine to poison the well and claim that anyone who may have a disagreement, including those in the past, are just like a bumbling JW at the door. The moment you say, “I think XYZ and everyone who disagrees is just like the JWs or any cookie-cutter cult,” you’ve lost it.
Not an argument.
Notice: you still haven’t justified your original statement, mainly that capitalism is racist. You went off on the labor theory of value, but this doesn’t help you in this regard.
You say you stand by the labor theory of value. Fine, but that’s where it ends then, unless you want to concede that discussing it wouldn’t be like a JW bumbling through the reasoning book at the doorstep.