I agree with WingCommander and scratchme. Would also add - best to ignore the first 24 hours of media coverage. Or at least take everything with a grain of salt. Wait for actual confirmed facts.
MeanMrMustard
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Just woke up turn TV on to hear yet another nut case with a gun.
by Still Totally ADD infirst they said 20 dead with 100 injured.
now i just heard 50 dead and 200 injured.
whatever it is it just another nut case who was able to get a high power gun to kill people.
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@Rattigan350:
Flawed logic.
The Nazis also wore underwear. If I choose to wear underwear, am I a Nazi?
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@Brokeback: Nobody is suggesting taking away the right to stand or sit. It has always been "sit, stand, or kneel" all you want. It is a tad bit different for the players since they have employment contracts, and they agreed to stand with their hand over their heart as part of the terms of employment. It's just that the NFL hasn't held them to it.
But! - The fans want to stand. The fans want the players to stand. The fans know the requirement is in the contracts.
Personally, I don't care if they sit, stand, or crap their pants during the anthem. It just bugs me that the reason they give is propoganda at worst and stupidity at best.
Why should the NFL respond to Donald Trump? Shouldn't they tell their customers that they are, in fact, wrong and should get on board with skipping the patriotism because ... well ... you know ... white supremacy and stuff? Why do you think this started with Trump?
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@OrphanCrow
I don't think anyone has brought that up until now.... with good reason.
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New Song to be sung for Warwick Dedication on Oct 7
by Drearyweather ina place that will bring you praise.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201801_8_video.
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MeanMrMustard
The horns at the beginning sound just like the start of this song.
I laughed. Then they started singing... #barf
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New Song to be sung for Warwick Dedication on Oct 7
by Drearyweather ina place that will bring you praise.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201801_8_video.
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MeanMrMustard
Why is one lady allowed to wear a brighter (silver) color while the rest are in black or charcoal color?
#barf
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@sparrowdown:
Kaepernick has been doing it for about a year now. Maybe a bit less. All the fans have been pretty upset since the start. The media is freaking out more now that Trump said something.
But if players are going to protest the anthem or flag, at least have a good reason. By that I mean one that is actually based in reality. Take these reasons for example:
"I'm taking a knee in protest of the wholesale slaughtering of lawns each weekend as citizens everywhere mow."
"I'm taking a knee to protest all the stellar star deaths that occur each day in the universe."
These are stupid reasons - but even these are a little better because what's mentioned in the two reasons above are actually happening!
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@flipper:
So I imagine that if I called Trump a malignant, narcissistic bitch who has the social skills of a pissed off orangutan - that would be cool and nobody would be upset- right ?
Doesn't this happen daily? Trump supporters laugh it off. They certainly aren't calling for censorship. Call Trump whatever you want. In other words: continue exercising your current free speech patterns.
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
@flipper: causes precede effects. The order was NOT : 1) Trump calls player sons of bitches, 2) played take knee.
Trump didn't start this. Kaepernick did. A year ago. Based on lies.
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Why the NFL Protest Is a Massive and Insulting Failure
by freemindfade ini think everyone has the freedom to protest, they also have freedom of speech, these are two fundamental things that make america amazing.
but thinking rationally about what is going on with the nfl, therefore, i have an unfavorable opinion of the league, and the players, not their right to free speech, but their motive and execution of it.
constitutional freedom to protest ends at the workplace door too.
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MeanMrMustard
2+2 = 5 is incorrect according to who's perspective???