Babylon The Great

by EisMe in

babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

Vanderhoven7

Babylon The Great is Apostate Israel/Jerusalem

Summary of Evidence (from Bible Prophecy Site)
1. Jerusalem rules the nations through its commerce, especially lending money.

Deuteronomy 15:6 For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.

2. Jerusalem kills the prophets and saints.

3. Jerusalem is the "great city" where Jesus was killed.

4. Jerusalem sits on 7 mountains.
5. Jerusalem is described as a whore in the Bible.
6. Jerusalem's priests wore purple, red, precious stones, and gold.
7. Jerusalem drinks the cup of wrath.
8. Jerusalem's lovers, the kings of the earth, turn on her to destroy her.
9. Jerusalem is called "Babylon" by Peter in 1 Peter 5:13

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Babylon The Great

by EisMe in

babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

Vanderhoven7

Wow! Beautiful version V!

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Babylon The Great

by EisMe in

babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

Vanderhoven7

Here is a great commentary by GAI

Although the identity of Babylon the Great and the "Harlot" or "Great Prostitute" in Revelation 17 is a subject of ongoing debate among biblical scholars and theologians, a significant body of thought, supported by various biblical arguments, points to apostate Israel, and specifically Jerusalem, as the Harlot.

Here's a breakdown of the evidence

1. Consistent Old Testament Imagery:

Harlotry as Idolatry: The Old Testament frequently uses the metaphor of "harlotry" or "adultery" to describe Israel's unfaithfulness to God through idolatry and pursuing alliances with other nations. Prophets like Hosea, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel extensively employ this imagery (e.g., Jeremiah 2:20-24; 3:2-3; Ezekiel 16:1-43; 23). This strong precedent suggests that when John uses "harlot" in Revelation, he is drawing on this established biblical motif to describe spiritual unfaithfulness.
Israel as God's Bride: In the Old Testament, Israel is often depicted as God's chosen bride, uniquely covenanted to Him. Her turning away to other gods is therefore seen as spiritual adultery, hence the "harlot" imagery. This covenant relationship makes the term "harlot" particularly fitting for Israel when she becomes unfaithful, as opposed to other nations who were never in such a covenant.

2. Parallels with Ezekiel 16 and 23:

Many scholars highlight the striking parallels between Revelation 17 and Ezekiel 16 and 23, which graphically describe Jerusalem's (and Samaria's) spiritual harlotry. The language and themes of prostitution, lavish adornment, and judgment for unfaithfulness are strongly echoed in Revelation.

3. "Drunk with the Blood of the Saints and Prophets" (Revelation 17:6):

This is a key verse for those who see Israel as the Harlot. Throughout biblical history, it was often Jerusalem and the Jewish leaders who persecuted and killed the prophets (e.g., Matthew 23:37-38; Luke 13:33-34). The early Christian persecution also originated significantly within Jewish communities who opposed the followers of Jesus. This aligns with the Harlot being "drunk with the blood of the saints and of the martyrs of Jesus."

4. "The Great City Where Our Lord Was Crucified" (Revelation 11:8):

While Revelation 17 explicitly calls the Harlot "Babylon the Great," Revelation 11:8 refers to "the great city where their Lord was crucified." This location is unequivocally Jerusalem. For some, this link suggests that the Harlot, while referred to as "Babylon" (a symbolic name for a persecuting power), ultimately represents Jerusalem in its apostate state.

5. Symbolic Meaning of "Babylon":

Those who argue for Israel as the Harlot often contend that "Babylon" in Revelation is not literal Babylon or even necessarily literal Rome, but a symbolic name for a corrupt religious and political system that opposes God and persecutes His people. Given Israel's historical role and eventual rejection of Messiah, some see Jerusalem as having become "Babylonian" in its spiritual character.

6. Scholarly Support:

Several biblical scholars and theologians, particularly those from a preterist or partial-preterist interpretive viewpoint, have argued for Jerusalem/apostate Israel as the Harlot. Some notable names include:

David Chilton (e.g., The Days of Vengeance: An Exposition of the Book of Revelation)
J. Massyngberde Ford (Revelation in the Anchor Bible series)
Kenneth Gentry (e.g., Before Jerusalem Fell: Dating the Book of Revelation)
J. Stuart Russell (The Parousia: A Critical Inquiry into the New Testament Doctrine of Our Lord's Return)

Conclusion:

While the identification of the Harlot in Revelation varies among scholars, the arguments for apostate Israel/Jerusalem are compelling, primarily due to the consistent use of "harlotry" imagery for Israel in the Old Testament, the parallels with Ezekiel's prophecies, and the references to the blood of saints and prophets. Understanding this perspective requires a careful examination of biblical typology and the symbolic language of Revelation.

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Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!

by Witness 007 in

so my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!

he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!

he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.

Vanderhoven7

I bet they won't accept the next dinner invite.

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"Donald Trump: The Eighth King of Prophecy"

by EisMe in

9.“this calls for a mind with wisdom.

the seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

10.they are also seven kings.

Vanderhoven7

I guess you could read anything into that prophecy depending on your definitions.

Exactly. Anything goes when you permit yourself to employ newspaper eisegesis to interpret scripture.

In other words, 80% of Revelation applies to our day alone and meant nothing to believers when it was written or to anyone before the 20th century.

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Is the Governing Body hunting down PIMOs? LEAKED survey for select congregations in Canada

by liam in

it seems like the organization is hunting down pimos.

maybe the mark o donnell lawsuit is just the beginning.. this leaked survey in canada is asking some very weird questions from select publishers.

all i can say is that this will help wake up some pimi straddling the fence.

Vanderhoven7

The following questions would be great to weed out the PIMOs that visit your home.

Opener: Are there any aspects of your religion that trouble you or perhaps make you uncomfortable...or is it all good?

1. Do you see your religion as being the only religion that God approves of?

2. Would you say that all other religions are essentially satanic or part of Satan's kingdom?

3. Do you believe that God is planning to destroy all other religions including the churches of Christendom along with their clergy and supporters?

4. Do you believe, perhaps with rare exceptions, that only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses have a scriptural hope of surviving Armageddon?

5. Do you believe that Jehovah's Witnesses who willfully and unrepentantly accept blood transfusions forfeit the hope of gaining eternal life?

6. Would you say that Witnesses are free to question and even disagree with what comes down from your religion's headquarters? (without repercussion?)

7. Do you know of any honorable way for a Jehovah's Witness to leave your religion? (In other words, can people leave the religion with their reputation intact?)

8. Do you believe that adult Jehovah's Witnesses, who either leave or are disfellowshipped from your religion, should be shunned?

9. If you somehow lost faith in your religion's primary leadership, would you lose your faith in God and the Bible?

10. Do you believe that the gospel Jehovah's Witnesses preach is the same gospel that Paul preached?

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Who will Survive Armageddon?

by Vanderhoven7 in

breaking news....there is hope for good hearted non-jws!!!.

according to sergio:.

are jehovah's witnesses the only ones to be saved during the end time?.

Vanderhoven7

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Armageddon Is Good News!

Barry McGuinnes writes:

"Armageddon is a ruin located in modern-day Israel. The word itself is a Greek transliteration of she Hebrew har məgīddō, meaning ‘Megiddo mountain’. But there is no mountain at Megiddo, only a small hill. It was the site of an ancient hilltop fort.

The reference to Armageddon in the book of Revelation simply states that it is the place where kings will gather to plan a forthcoming war. Why would kings meet on a hill that is no mountain?

Anyway, Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that ‘Armageddon’ — the gathering of kings — symbolically refers to things like the United Nations, whereby world leaders are conspiring (as part of Satan’s evil plan) to destroy God’s chosen people — you know, the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

But luckily for the Jehovah’s Witnesses, God will swiftly respond by committing global genocide against all non-JWs, perhaps with a nuclear holocaust, leaving what’s left of the Earth to be populated by those nice JW folk.

That’s why they can’t wait for WWIII to get underway.

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The Good News Is: The Great-Crowd-Of-Other-Sheep Do Not Exist

by Sea Breeze in

the watchtower conflates two different groups into one fictional church-age group that according to the watchtower, are saved by works and faith/membership in the jehovah witness organization.

according to watchtower, only the now mostly dead 144k receive the promises of god regarding justification .

everbody else missed the boat and must work for their justification for a thousand years.

Vanderhoven7

Here is one of the WT other sheep after finding himself in heaven.

https://youtube.com/shorts/pruDzAJ6RVg?si=KAkJjJ-mF7bpWje9

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Judge Arrested for Immigration Related Criminality

by Sea Breeze in

breaking: fbi director kash patel has announced the arrest of milwaukee judge hannah dugan for obstructing ice during the arrest of an illegal alien.

patel: "we believe judge dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, eduardo flores ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.".

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Vanderhoven7

Well, some people think very highly of Mr. Trump.

https://youtube.com/shorts/I-q9JgyTOD0?si=l5b09hN13UhE3tLo

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Probability of Earth and life being how it is

by ballistic in

jw
friends

there are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.

but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.

the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.

Vanderhoven7

Good luck on this one.

Vanderhoven7

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