so this morning we flirt and i tell her what a "dirty girl" she is for buying those books...but i was thinking this from a girl who broke a frying pan on my car years ago because i didnt want to go to the meetings.
slowly i wore down that rock that she is with little facts and qoutes...i would not have stayed with her if she remained the fanatic witness she was....also she now swears like a sailor...i like that..
My wife read all 3 of the Fifty Shades books, but she never read the Watchtower or Awake even when we were in. I read a couple of chapters and wasn't too impressed.
I wouldn't be shocked if some "in" JWs even read it on the sneak. Especially now that you can read on your ipad or Kindle and don't have to buy a bound book. I mean, the ban on porn doesn't mean all the elders and bethelites weren't watching porn on their computers. Why wouldn't the sisters be reading lady porn on their tablets? lol
only reposting for those who did not read it.. .
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Well, it was 10 years ago, so even if it was the largest then it probably isn't now.
i am usually a lurker here.
i was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago.
my relationship with my family has never been the same.
You could always call their bluff now that they have met their granddaughter and started thinking about the possibility that she is going to be in their life. If you stop going now and give it a month or two maybe they won't want to shun their grandchild too. You could tell them something like you can't find any scriptural justification for people treating other people like pariahs in a house of worship and judicial committees and all of the other nonsense related to DF'ing. I mean, they couldn't openly associate with you and stay in, but maybe they would do it quietly. I don't know if that would be enough for you. If it doesn't work, you could always go back to trying to get reinstated in a couple of months.
hey jwn.. i have some good friends that are trying to get custody of their wife's daughter from the kid's grandmother who is a jw.
unfortunately she's loaded and they have little means to fight a custody battle.
is there any legal resources that they can reach out to or any attorneys that work on the side of fighting against jws?.
Have the parental rights been terminated? Has there already been a custody determination by a court in favor of the grandparent? Based on the information you provided, I suspect that the religion angle may not the best thing to focus on.
If rights have not been terminated and this is an original proceeding, there is a presumption that it's in the best interest of child for the natural parent to have custody. The parent should only have to prove that she herself is fit, not that the grandparent is unfit because of her religion or any other reason.
But in addition to what has been provided, if the religion card is going to be played and the attorney is not familiar with these types of cases, I suggest reading and/or have the parents' attorney read Dealing with Jehovah's Witness Custody Cases by Jerry Bergman. Summary is here. The attorney will have the credentials needed to obtain the full article. Or if you PM me an e-mail address, I can send it to you.
hey jwn.. i have some good friends that are trying to get custody of their wife's daughter from the kid's grandmother who is a jw.
unfortunately she's loaded and they have little means to fight a custody battle.
is there any legal resources that they can reach out to or any attorneys that work on the side of fighting against jws?.
If the child's grandmother has custody and the parents don't, it sounds like there might be some other piece of the puzzle other than religion at play?
since i've been off work this week because of spring break, i've really been missing my grandma.
when i have left wt (i'm fading and april will be 6 months) and i told her about january, she has been shunning me.
i told myself "i will respect her wishes/decision..etc" this morning i woke up and said "to hell with shunning!
Gojira - hacking into someone else's e-mail account is a felony, and I would absolutely report her and be insistent that it's investigated if she does it to you. I'm sure your grandmother wouldn't press charges, but you can. Many e-mail programs can tell you when the last time you signed in was (like for gmail, it's in the bottom right), so you can montior that if you think she might hack you. Also some programs let you ask for an alert if you are signed in from a computer other than the one you generally use (Facebook also has this option).
People have actually been convicted of felonies for this. If it happens, contact local police as well as the FBI, since it's a federal crime. Here is one example of an indictment of someone for accessing a co-worker's email account.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/pae/News/2008/jul/mendtepress.pdf
Don't be afraid of auntie screwing up your life. Screw up hers if she breaks the law!
here was my story posted originally about 2 years ago.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/205854/1/as-a-witness-what-view-of-the-world-did-you-have-heres-my-story.
and my extended story on jwrecovery:.
I don't think this forum is limited to those who are having serious difficulties. If things are going well with his family and he wants information that he thinks can help him keep it that way, I don't see the problem.
I have a relative on my wife's side of the family who was baptized, pioneering, etc, then decided he didn't want to be a JW anymore, and moved away and moved in with a wordly girlfriend. The parents went out of their way to not tell the elders about his situation and where he was currently living, phone number, and so on because they didn't want him DF'd. After the smoke cleared in a few years they started associating with him again. He has never been Df'd and has been openly doing lots of things you could be DF'd for and it has been 20+ years. He has attended JW weddings and is basically treated like an unbelieving family member, so it does happen.
here was my story posted originally about 2 years ago.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/205854/1/as-a-witness-what-view-of-the-world-did-you-have-heres-my-story.
and my extended story on jwrecovery:.
Don't be so hostile, Roberta.
OP moved away and is basically inactive. Do you really think every JW is going to be anxious to go out of their way to get their kids shunned?
this popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
Yes, but the woman who is quoted at the very beginning is apostate. By reading the article which includes her quotes, one would be letting apostates into his home. It would be no different than having a meal. It's just like the Dateline program - quite simple.
since i've been off work this week because of spring break, i've really been missing my grandma.
when i have left wt (i'm fading and april will be 6 months) and i told her about january, she has been shunning me.
i told myself "i will respect her wishes/decision..etc" this morning i woke up and said "to hell with shunning!
Sorry to hear about your loss of your grandmother. There is no basis for the evil spinster aunt (I don't know, but that is how I am imagining her) to instigate a restraining order because you write your grandmother a letter every month. Whether she will intercept and trash the letters is another story, though. Best of luck with Grandmom!
