took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
Thankfuly the answer is easy, we dont judge or tell anyone anything.
Yet, you have the means to with your understanding of the human brain. When the patient is mind controlled a different set of rules apply. This is a TRUTH that has no reflection in modern law.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
So what if doctor's decide YOU can't be trusted with your children until you are released from the control of the Christian death cult?
I spoke to a scientist in my community a few weeks ago. He has been a counselor for many years and has had many run ins with the Society. He told me a story where a father had a son who was trying to commit suicide and was in the hospital. The counselor begged for the father to seek aid for his son outside of the Society, but he wouldn't. The man told him straight to his face that he'd rather his son kill himself. That's the Watchtower for you. They create an environment where kids die, simple as that. It's not an "oops" thing.
If I told a doctor that my beliefs are more important to me than my child's life then that doctor has a responsibility to sound an alarm. That parent is mentally imbalanced and it shows through the choices they make. That mental imbalance is a result of a systemic effort of death cults who rob people of their self confidence so that blood sacrifices can be made to their fake gods. I see no problem with taking kids away from dangerous parents. If a parent is strung out on meth, you take the kid. If the parent is allowing their children to die needlessly on an operating table because of a chapter in Acts, you take the kid.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
Everything.
It should be looked at as an act of coerced manslaughter. The people who made the choice to allow their children to die without reason need psychological help. They are not criminals, they are victims, but they cannot be trusted with their children until they are released from the bonds of Watchtower mind control. The criminals (mind control artists) need to be brought to justice. Attacking all of religion will not solve anything. It's mind control itself that should be attacked. You disappoint me.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
So you fell for the hard sell? At what point did they take control of your mind? On the doorstep when you answered?
I didn't fall for anything. I was a kid. Your argument is the same as saying it's the child's fault for getting raped because they could have avoided it! Kids are the true victims of cults and the rapists who hide within them.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
What's wrong with allowing doctors to say, "You were brainwashed by a death cult, that's why you can look your daughter in the eyes and watch her die needlessly." Then you can escort them to therapy. Anyone who would allow their children to die like that have obviously been mentally compromised. In the case of Watchtower members their freedom has already been taken, now they are just damaging society. To protect a death cult because of religious freedom is immoral. Taking the lowest part of religion and calling that all religion is intellectually lazy.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
Sab, calling names to support your position is unacceptable.
I agree, that's why I don't do it.
I agree with you that the WTBS ruins lives. Any system that seeks to control freedom of personality and expression will do that. However, selectively banning things is not the solution. Education is the solution. Religiousness overall is declining, largely due to education.
Yes, education of how death cults work. They operate just like organized crime. There is the front end and the back end. If you just study the front, you will be decieved and they will laugh all the way to the bank.
Were you brought up as a JW sab or did you buy into it ?
I woke up on this planet in 1984 and the Watchtower called me sonny boy.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
Sab, if you think you were not to blame in any way for falling for WT nonsense (specifically the blood issue), then you are in danger of falling for someone else's Bull Shit.....
You are deluded and it frightens me. Mind control exists and if applied correctly can completely control ANY mind. To say the Witnesses have a choice is to throw them all under a bus. They don't, at all because the Watchtower product is very powerful. The Watchtower plays on the pride of people who believe they are strong enough to resist what cannot be resisted when applied correctly. Our brain is just a cocktail of chemicals that can be manipulated. The only reason why people wake up is because it's difficult to control a large amount of people and mistakes are made. Their system has been perfected over many decades. Just because some are lucky enough to have woken up doesn't mean there isn't one's who are trapped inside and have no way out. The Watchtower turns the mind into a prison.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
I think you will find you haven't thought this through. For instance, Christian schools still teach the young earth creationism. Anti-vaxxers spread dangerous and wrong ideas. Anti-science ideas stop progress. Snake handling kills people. Which ideas do you want to start banning? Who gets to be the arbiter? Certainly not you.
Believe me, I have thought it through. That doesn't mean there isn't flaws, however, I am not perfect. I see a distinction between say, Pokemon or the NFL and the Watchtower. Pokemon is definitely designed to get children addicted to a product, but the Watchtower is designed to get people to die for them and their fake god Jehovah as well as their children. As kids grow up they typically shed addictions to games and if they don't that typically means they have some sort of unresolved internal conflict unrelated to the product they were addicted to. The Watchtower, however, purposefully designs their scheme for that internal conflict to last beyond childhood. They are creating drones, literally. They tried to turn me into one of them and I resisted. We all did. They need their subjects under a constant state of cognitive dissonance which is what gets the mind to reject the truth when it's presented in opposition to their system of LIES. They just stole concepts from Freud and used it to create a religious empire. That's their goal and it should be illegal. NO MIND CONTROL, it's cheating. There is a difference between religion and religious product. The Watchtower isn't in the business of misinformation, they are in the business of mind control. Big difference.
Doctors need to be able to diagnos mind control. Then they can get people out as they report symptoms. That's why the Watchtower has their tentacles in the "bloodless surgery" market. They want to be lauded as life savers, not takers because that would blow their front.
Watchtower is a business, it needs customers, killing them really isn't all that smart.
Yes, they are a business, but they operate on an unorthodox model. It's not a coincidence that as science progressed they found more ways to kill their people by demanding loyalty to deadly doctrines. Every time a new medical procedure was discovered, like vaccinations and organ transplants, they used it to measure the loyalty of their population. Every chance they get they offer BLOOD sacrifices to their idol, Jehovah under the noses of the public. This is more than about money and always has been ever since Russell and the Pyramids. There are many unethical means of which to make loads of cash. Creating a death cult IS a religious ideal and all cults need money to operate. Some cults are more money-centric, some have other more sinister ambitions.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
You are free to say as you wish, I just didn't want anyone that looked at this thread to be offended and so politely asked you to retract it. There will be people on here who have lost loved ones, they perhaps don't want to hear your theories on WT killing them on purpose with some kind of satanic purpose. Something I have never heard said about JW's before. It is a thread about misleading people, keeping them ignorant of science that would topple their authority.
The only way you can consistantly keep a large group of people ignorant in this day in age is through a system of mind control. We HAVE to make that illegal. The more the internet grows the stronger the punch is spiked. Something will eventually give and there will be blame all over the Watchtower and cults like them. Retribution must be had, the people deserve it. Humans are naturally skeptical, evolution provided this nifty trait and it has to be programmed OUT of us for us to be controlled. The sensibilities of people who have lost loved ones to the Watchtower is a red herring for this discussion. Whether they believe or not, they need to know that the Watchtower does it on purpose. They gamble with the lives of children. We have to get this idea out of our heads that the Watchtower are just religious buffoons. They make calculated risks and they are OK with the widespread collateral damage that ensues on all levels. After examining those decisions and their results what is discoverd is CRIME. Kingdom Halls are crime scenes and always have been. Our culture has the nasty habbit of looking the other way when unspeakable horror is happening, but only behind windowless rooms.
I am bringing up the unnerving truths about the Watchtower and if anyone doesn't want to hear the truth, then cover your ears. If you study their entire doctrinal history you will see that they are interested in killing, it's blindingly apparent. They are the one's always bringing up that "Satan the god of the world", not I. I just see satan in their actions when I read about them on the interent and compare it with my personal experience. We were HAD! You don't have the believe in satan, that word is just a personification of evil. They are EVIL. They are the one's that use mind control to create irrational fear in the minds of their members and then put suicide cards in their wallets. It's flabbergasting to me that you would try to paint ME as some sort of insensitive monster for strongly voicing that our western world is being victimized by death cults. It's NOT OUR FAULT. It's THEIRS for subjecting us to brainwashing and mind control. The leaders of the Watchtower have full responsibility and full culpability. If I were them I would step down and run. They MUST be tried and found guilty for crimes against humanity. Then thrown into the prison system where people who victimize children are hunted like animals.
-Sab
took a peek at the new jw.org and soon got angry :(.
"witness patients often do better!".
how was i that dumb, are people that dumb?
Sabatious, with the greatest respect, this is a legitimate discussion about real people and real life and death situations. Your conspiracy scenario's are unwelcome and unhelpful.
I am not here to fearmonger, I am here with legitmate concern for the well being of the children in my community and those of my country. I have a right to that concern and I will voice it in the way I feel is necessary.
The fact is that the Watchtower uses mind control in order to plant extreme fear into their members. This robs them of their free will especially if you were raised in the environment. The subject of blood briefly came up when I was with my brother and he told me that he was extremely fearful of blood transfusions. I tried to reason with him a bit, but he was gripped with fear and talked about how tranfusing blood is like having another person inside of you. He said that it probably changed your genetics and that it would change the genetics of your children. All of this fear is created by his mind because of the fear that is purposefuly put into the minds of Watchtower Kingdom Hall meeting attenders. The publications are designed to create irrational fear. It's no coincidence that my father used to read us both the blood brochure before we went to bed along with My Book of Bible Stories. I am out of the cult now, but my brother is still in and is in a constant state of irrational fear. This is much more than religious charlatans. This is religiously organized crime. They hide behind the freedom of religion that so much sacrifice around the entire globe obtained for them. Then they use it to rob the liberty of the mind of children and they end up becoming abuse victims of every type. Then those failed experiments go off on their own trying to make sense of the world they were cast into. This will not stand and it needs to be voiced as much as possible.
The Watchtower is what's called a Cult of Death. They are obsessed with Satan and death and their religious insanity costs the lives of countless children. I know I am not the only one who reads the articles of Marvin Shilmer. It is not a stretch AT ALL to think that a death cult preys on their own young. I know, I lived it.
Spare me your scientific melodrama.
-Sab
