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I Believe Full Disclosure Is Moving Forward

by metatron in

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anyone who deeply believes in a "free press" is very naive in my opinion.

for example, consider how stories about scandal suddenly appear out of nowhere after candidates actually start running.

i am also aware of how surprizing revelations appear in european newspapers about figures in the us - while little or nothing is reported in the american press.

What kind of vehicle should I park on the Kingdom Hall Parking lot?

by asilentone in

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huge tires?

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Car accidents make the Congo BLOODGUILTY

by hamsterbait in

further to sebastious first very good video on bloodguilt -.

can anybody post the kingdumb misery saying that the entire congregation is bloodguilty if a brother accidentally kills somebody on the road?.

it seems ridiculous to claim that jehoobie will have it in for all the dubby babies and their parents because of an accident on the road, but there it is.. they say the elduhs should investigate - don't you think the police are better qualified to do this rather than window washers and cracker and cheese men?.

Mythbuster

Here's a more recent take from them:

*** w06 9/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***

Questions From Readers

What is the congregation's responsibility if a Christian driving an automobile has an accident that results in the death of others?

The possibility of bloodguilt deserves consideration because the congregation needs to avoid community responsibility for bloodguiltiness. (Deuteronomy 21:1-9; 22:8) A driver who is responsible for a fatal accident may incur bloodguilt if he was careless or deliberately violated one of Caesar's safety or traffic laws. (Mark 12:14) But there are other factors to consider.

A manslayer who fled to one of Israel's cities of refuge had to stand trial. If the slaying was found to be unintentional, he would be allowed to remain in the city, safe from the avenger of blood. (Numbers 35:6-25) So if a Christian is responsible for someone's death in an accident, the elders should investigate matters to determine if there is a measure of bloodguilt. The government's view or a court's decision does not altogether determine what action the congregation will take.

For instance, a court may declare the person guilty of some technical violation of the law, but the investigating elders may determine that no bloodguilt exists because the driver had little or no control over the circumstances resulting in the fatality. Conversely, if the court dismisses the case, the elders may conclude that he actually is bloodguilty.

The decision of the elders investigating the case should be based on the Scriptures and the clearly established facts-an admission by the driver and/or the testimony of two or three reliable eyewitnesses. (Deuteronomy 17:6; Matthew 18:15, 16) If bloodguilt is established, a judicial committee should be formed. If the committee determines that the bloodguilty person is repentant, he will receive appropriate reproof from the Scriptures and will be restricted as regards privileges in the congregation. He would no longer serve as an elder or a ministerial servant. Other restrictions would also be imposed. And he is accountable to God for his carelessness, neglect, or lack of caution that resulted in the accident and fatality.-Galatians 6:5, 7.

To illustrate: If weather conditions were bad at the time of the accident, the driver should have exercised greater care. If he was drowsy, he should have stopped and rested until he was no longer sleepy, or he should have had someone else drive.

Suppose the driver was speeding. If any Christian exceeds the speed limit, this is a failure to render "Caesar's things to Caesar." It also betrays a disregard for the sacredness of life, for there is the possibility of fatal consequences. (Matthew 22:21) In this regard, consider something further. What kind of example would an elder be setting for the flock if he was careless about Caesar's traffic regulations or deliberately failed to obey them?-1 Peter 5:3.

Christians should not require that others be at a certain place at a time that would clearly be impossible without their exceeding the speed limit. In most cases, however, it is a matter of starting early enough or of changing one's schedule to allow for sufficient travel time. If that is done, the Christian will not be tempted to drive faster than he should, but he will be able to comply with the traffic laws of the governmental "superior authorities." (Romans 13:1, 5) This will help the driver to guard against fatal accidents with the possibility of bloodguilt. It will also enable him to set a fitting example and maintain a good conscience.-1 Peter 3:16.

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Do you give out free stuff where you work at?

by asilentone in

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i just like free stuff/samples.

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Mythbuster

Not sure why but this bothers me. Too much personal information could be exposed.

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JW woman dies in car accident out in the "work"--where was the holy spirit?

by blondie in

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/traffic/mazda-crushed-by-truck-friday-carried-four-women-938492.html.

mazda crushed by truck friday carried four women headed out to share word as jehovah's witnesses; one diedbysonja isgerpalm beach post staff writer.

updated: 6:57 p.m. sunday, sept. 26, 2010. posted: 1:33 p.m. sunday, sept. 26, 2010. .

Mythbuster

I am against the "insensitive" words that have been used on this thread about those who were involved in this accident. I posted my own experience on this thread because it hurt to hear the way some on this board seemed to care so little about the lady who died. I could have been killed back in 1972 and then never would have gone to Bethel; never have found out about and revealed the awful child abuse problem in this organization. If that woman who died yesterday in W. Palm Beach as she was going out in field service had lived, she might have been one of us in the future who left the Witnesses and shared her experiences that might have helped others. I'm sad that there are posters who hate the Watch Tower so much that they hate the victims of the Watch Tower too, something all of us once were.