Thanks. This is significant. A lot of people are coming up with the SAME 2011-2012 doomsday.
JC
starting at 8:00 pm est in the united states history channel international will be showing the following three programs back to back:.
the doomsday clock.
mayan doomsday prophecy.
Thanks. This is significant. A lot of people are coming up with the SAME 2011-2012 doomsday.
JC
....and you and their family dont speak?
do you go to the funeral and have to deal with the living in order to pay respects to the dead?
my sister and i havent spoken to our father and his wife for a few years now because the intrusive, overbearing wife wont let our father speak to us, write to us or even have lunch with us...without her.
My condolences. I feel sorry for your situation. JW issues plagued deaths in my family as well, with some in the family adamantly against the witnesses. I'm disfellowshipped but have elderly parents and lots of cousins in the truth. So I dread the funeral.
Now personally, I would just let the witnesses do their thing and have their own memorial service. Or if they wanted the body there I could arrange it (I the executor). I wouldn't stand in the way of all those who loved either of my parents. But then there is the issue of me attending the Hall. I loathe the Kingdom Hall. So on paper it looks great. Just let them have their own private funeral and I'll have something separate for the family who do not want to deal with the witnesses, make just a wake and viewing. But there is so much pressure for me to be supportive of the surviving parent at the Hall. And the brothers are DARLING. Half of them speak to me anyway, because I don't quite manage to tell them up front I'm disfellowshipped (tee hee) like a nice witness. I figure as long as I don't discuss anything, there's nothing wrong with being pleasant and saying hello. One of the elders don't like it. He figures it is MY RESPONSIBILITY not to talk to the brothers, but I could care less. I figure it is HIS responsibility to tell the brothers I'm out and when they don't speak to me, then I accept that. But if they speak, I speak back.
Anyway, what can you do. Either way its painful, so I empathize with you. Whenever that fateful day arrives for me, not that it might with Armageddon being so close, I'm just going to be as kind as I can to the brothers and forget about all the who is disfellowshipped issue. I figure if a situation FORCES me to be in their company then I'm not playing the "sad disfellowshipped one." I'm just going to pretend everything is fine and when the funeral is over we can go back to those JW games.
Anyway, you have my sympathy and I know it must be difficult. But these things happen.
JC
hello my friend,.
i was reading through a few of your past posts in an effort to get to know the christ better and i have a question.
according to one of your posts from 2003 you tell us that being publically ridiculed or disbelieved by apostates is a fullfilment of prophesy.
I wish ALL the best in the coming tribulations. You've all been marked... or not.
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/e/b7eef192
HAVE FAITH....JUST BELIEVE
jc
hello my friend,.
i was reading through a few of your past posts in an effort to get to know the christ better and i have a question.
according to one of your posts from 2003 you tell us that being publically ridiculed or disbelieved by apostates is a fullfilment of prophesy.
That is one Hell of a bad cold-sore on the palm of your right hand. Have you considered Valtrex?
ROFL! OHHHH, yeah! I was wondering. I think there is a scripture that says Jesus had cold sores that broke out after those nails were driven through his hands. That must be it! It's in one of the lost gospels. Coldsorations 66:6 I think!!! JC
hello my friend,.
i was reading through a few of your past posts in an effort to get to know the christ better and i have a question.
according to one of your posts from 2003 you tell us that being publically ridiculed or disbelieved by apostates is a fullfilment of prophesy.
SpaghettiMan, you have to dig deeper to understand the cross dressing dumpster diving Messiah. It ain't easy!
Hi, JC !
BFD
It is totally EASY, especially if you're a witness.
2520 years from the fall of Jerusalem the messiah is supposed to arrive. Only the basis of that prophecy is about an earthly human representative of God's king being interrupted for 2520 years. So it stands to reason that Christ must return in the flesh again to be on the earth as a human king. Then the 2520-year gap makes sense. That is, the last earthly king was Zedekiah and the next would be Jesus Christ himself returned in the flesh at the second coming.
If you go strictly by the Bible you culd have arrived at 529 BCE for the 19th of Nebuchadnezzar, but otherwise, we have the VAT4956 and the SK400 showing us the original dates for years 7 and 37 of Nebuchadnezzar to give us confidence that 529 BCE is the correct date. That means the earthly messiah must arrive in 1992-1993. Simple.
But would anyone recognize him at first? No. That's because darkness over his coming would be instituted in his organization (JWs) and Christendom. Only the "eagles" who would monitor him from birth would know where he is; and they would not be announcing it. Eventually the messiah would be revealed to the world, but first as we all know, he comes as a thief.
So why am I NOT the messiah? To answer that pro or con you actually have to read your Bible. So that's the MAIN reason people don't believe I'm the messiah: 1) They don't believe the Bible at all, or 2) They are so out of practice consulting the Bible and so used to the Watchtower they don't bother looking. And when they do, most can't accept something so radically different than what they had been led to believe about the second coming all this time. But it's all right there. For those "wise virgins" who truly check things out, the chronology, the parables about Lazarus and the prodigal son, connecting those to the messiah, then I become more and more and more realistic as the fulfillment of prophecy! Even the fact that I have so many false teachings exposed in the witness organization, which is supposed to be God's chosen channel! How come I have more knowledge than they do? This was prophesied with Lazarus having more knowledge than the Rich Man (the Governing Body) and so it is fullfilled to THEM! I'm the one with the TRUTH now. Not the GB, who have been cast off and are in spiritual darkness.
So the more you actually look at and understand the Bible, the more obvious I fit the description of the second coming messiah, even in the details of my sexual preferences it turns out!! The messiah MUST return in 1992, there is no alternative. Since the WTS doesn't teach that, we know they are false prophets. It is as simple as that. The chronology is exact and must be fulfilled.
So, YES, I'm really it. I'm really the messiah. I've seen and spoken with Jehovah personally, all that. And this is REAL. Right now we see the world on the brink of economic collapse as is prophesied. It will likely be blamed on the Illuminati/IMF/Trilateral Commission, CIA, you name it, and they will be destroyed soon. Oil prices are at an all-time high and Iran, who hates Israel, is in a position to destabilize the world's economy. Everything is dependent on oil. There is no choice. Either attack Iran and get control over the oil, which the international community will not tolerate, or get them to cooperate in some way. OR propagandize a complete separation of church and state and destroy all public display of religion. That is effective in dealing with the terrorists because they are centered in Islamic fundamentalism. Shut down the religion, you shut down the potential for religious terrorism. The Western price paid is the same in their countries. Shut down all religion which is considered mythical. Right now you have some claiming there is no proof of any historical Jesus. It's all rhetoric, but it works on paper. I'm the only real thing that proves there is a God of the Bible.
Now, keep in mind as hard as that is to believe for America, this is nothing in Russia or other countries where religions are banned anyway and limited in expression. Just like the Gihad in Islam, you have the Christian Identity Movement in this country that is considered religious but also a fundamental terrorist group claiming to want to overthrow the government and kill Jews and blacks, whatever. So there are plenty of reasons to shut down these religions. Plus the WTS has way too many Freemasonry skull and bones skeletons in its own closet to be exempt.
I'm a complete crazy person and a looney toon if you never open your Bible. But if you do, then you'll see even the WTS was expecting me...
Of course, they don't want to admit it, other than in secret or in the artwork because they want to leave as many options open as possible to stay in control. They are all just waiting to see when I start performing some miracles or something beyond that "sign of the son of man" that was photographed for me. They want more. But the next sign they will see is Armageddon raining down upon them.
Everybody here calls me crazy and they see quite plainly that sleeping black child in the hand of Jesus and have no comment. Why is that face of a black person. Why is his eyes closed? Why in the hand of Jesus? Why that cryptic flying bird figure next to it?
NO. I'm not the one who is in DENIAL. It's most of the people here who don't want to deal with the other secret society things going on in the WTS that they can't face.
They joined the UN in early 1992. Perhaps in anticipatio of needing to find me. So the UN must have secret surveillance units everywhere. I became identified when I wrote to the GB on November 10, 1992, not claiming I was the messiah but that I was anointed and speaking for Jehovah and that they were to be cast off. That's all they needed, especially after confirming I was black and "single." Once it was clear I was the messiah the UN shut down JIOR operations in Monrovia and Duarte where I lived, also nearby Azusa. Things must have started to escalate as December 25th approached and the UN was able to shut down the "two witnesses" by December 22nd. It might have been more effective with preventing the second coming event hadn't Fred Franz suddenly died, certainly interrupting some hands-on logistics with respect to monitoring or interfering with what the JIOR was setting up. As it happened the second coming event did happen.
Some people laugh about a dumpster, but it was a perfect hiding place. Satan's UN spies could be en force, everywhere. Once they know you're in the area, they can release like 100 or more agents in plain clothes just to watch. Just to pretend to shop or take romantic walks up and down the street. All watching. And once you've been spotted, that's it. They can follow you. They know what bus you take, or what movie you go to. You can't hide. But in this case, I was no where in public for two days while in the dumpster. I was completely off the street. Not in any motel, not in any store. No where. I vanished as far as they were concerned. By the time they thought to step up their surveillance it was too late. Plus spy groups are like any other group. They take off on Sundays and this was Christmas holiday so basically you just have a skeleton crew working. So from that logistical point of view, this was the weakest point in their defence, a narrow window of limited surveillance to accomplish this. I'm sure by the 26th or 27th they were at full capacity again but by then it was too late.
Plus I know the FBI was involved. Slightly after Jehovah played that switcheroo on them in San Pedro, where I pre-dressed with a change of clothing underneath a polyester running suite, which was baggy and could cover clothing underneath, and slipped through their trap, I had occasion to go to San Fernando Valley and thus ride the Red Line or Blue Line down town where all the shuttle trams intersect. It was rare I would travel at all, let alone be downtown during working hours. But sure enough the director of the the FBI branch in LA and his chief deputy couldn't resist running down to look at me in person. So I knew who they both were and they just glared at me and I GLARED BACK at them. They could tell I knew who they were and I knew they knew who I was. So there was some kind of cooperation going on. That's the very day the WTS sent me a reply to some question I had presented to them. But it was suspicious because I had set up a pattern of behavior whereby I'd get my mail every 2 weeks or so and if I got letters from archaeologists or anything related to research I'd go to a nearby burger place and sit there and read my mail, getting out of the house I was isolated in. But it was a nice townhouse, tri-level with vaulted ceilings two stories high in a gated-community. I worked from home so never really had to leave for weeks at a time. So when I would get my mail that was a great opportunity.
But that's how OJ Simpson was set up so easily. He was quite predictable. But if you know the game, you can play the ends against the middle. I would purposely set up a false pattern of behavior and then when I wanted to duck out, I'd just violate that pattern of behavior. You know, I'd pretend I'm got to gamble and I have a gambling addiction and it was just a cover for something else, you know, to meet contacts in the casino. You get them looking comfortable and relaxed in one place with a routine of predictable behavior and they don't see what you're doing somewhere else. Some of the agents are so easy to spot though. Like I said before, you can tell. The government never likes buying anything new if what is old is working. Anyone working on a government or County job knows that the budget is everything. They have to fight for new equipment. So a lot of the agents have outdated surveillance stuff that worked 20 years ago but looks totally stupid now. Like transister radios doubling for walkie talkies. Who listens to a transistor radio anymore? It was a great decoy 20 years ago when everybody listened to their transister radios, but not now! So I felt sorry for the agents because you know they are compromised trying to use their old stuff but the government is too cheap to update to the latest, trying to save money. Plus too many agents use the SAME thing. One agent was photographing me on a bus with a wallet camera. You open it up and pretend you're looking at photos of your kids, only its a huge thick wallet of photos. But you can tell they are aiming at you because they are adjusting the level to take a picture. It's CLEVER, sure. If the person is at a natural angle with the camera. Problem is, once you've spotted that wallet camera and you see somone else approaching you while looking at photos of their kids, it's rather OBVIOUS! So you just grin and smile and pass them by. You know you're under surveillance. But once in the casino (where this happened last) there are so many cameras they can back off and just follow your every move with the ceiling cameras, so it's not that obvious. But one agent did practically accost me, glared at me, obviously with some kind of a lapel camera. Oh well. That's been my life for many years, dodging agents. Staying at home a lot. Traveling is INVOLVED for the JIOR too. Lots of decoys and false detours are set up for me when I travel, so I don't travel much.
Now, granted, why shouldn't someone think I'm just paranoid and imagining all this. Even a wild series of coincidences? But when you see the imagery in the WTS' publications of the sleeping black child, you know how BIG this is and how much concern there is about it, even though it is top secret. Now remember, the agents involved don't have to know ANYTHING other than I'm a target for surveillance. So they just do their job and are told ANYTHING, anything that works for them. I could be a drug dealer or a suspect in something they are investigating. They can say ANYTHING they want to the pee-ons at the bottom actually doing the work. It doesn't have to be true or the real reason. They just have to put me in harm's way and make it look good on paper so nobody will suspect anything. Easy to do if you're a black man, who is suspected of being a criminal in the first place. They can always claim: "Oops! Mistaken identity. We had REASONABLE CAUSE." Whatever.
Look at that sleeping black child in the hand of Jesus again. The WTS definitely knows who I am but doesn't know what to do about me. But I'm not cutting them any slack either so they are opposed to me now. No biggee, their demise is minutes away now!!!
JC
assume that the first 11 chapters of the bible (i.e.
gen 1-11) are correct.
if the understanding is correct that satan raised issues in the garden of eden, and one of these issues was that man can rule on his own without jehovah interfering.
Interesting comments. But actually to shed a little more light on this.
To Jesus God said: "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed." Satan was called the "woman" because she was considered to be married to Christ. The two angels on the Ark of the Covenant represent a "couple", a husband and wife, Michael and Lucifer(a).
So for 6000 years it would be Jesus vs Satan in many contests, great and small. Satan would basically claim that mankind would all rebel against God if given the chance and God claims some will remain faithful to him, to the death, no matter what, freely giving up their life for him. Satan's aim is to destroy these or influence them to rebel against God.
The climax of this occurred in 1992 when Satan and his seed, his angels, were kicked out of heaven by Christ and his angels. Satan would be let loose in the earth a short while before he is abyssed and a 1000 years without Satanic influence would then ensue. We're on the very threshold of that event now, where the millennium begins and Satan is abyssed.
So God does sort of allow Satan a chance to make his philosophical, moral or legal point, as it were; while God firmly wagers in favor of the righteous. The anointed Bride Class of Christ, thus replace Satan on Mount Zion as Christ's wife. So there is, in particular a great competition in that regard with a focus on the elect. But at this point, Jehovah has hidden them so that there is even less direct interference by Satan, though Satan disgorges a river of propaganda to try and drown the woman. We see that in all this atheistic, pseudo-scientific BS out there. But it does not affect the woman, partly because she sees the direct results, the coming of the messiah in the world as proof God exists and is fulfilling his word.
Further, God did not lie. If Adam lived beyond a 24-hour day then the "day" God had in mind must have been one of the other "days", such as the 1000-year day. Adam did not live past 1000.
JC
jc.
can you help me understand these stories?
i want to know why these are in the bible.
hmmm. I'm not so convinced. But you do fascinate me JCanon. I do feel a teeny bit bad about my harsh comments to you on a different thread. I SAID A TEENY BIT DONT GET EXCITED.
See? Crazy and delusional people can be creatively fun sometimes!!!
LISTEN. Everybody here has a front row seat for what is to happen next. I'm sort of now, now that the anointed are sealed, free to proclaim myself to the world as the messiah. At my "revelation" the end of the world occurs. If you keep up it can be fun to see these events unfold. In this case, appreciating the "second coming" event which is private and quiet is different from the "revelation" of the messiah to the world. He first comes as a thief and then people realize he's been here a while already, a big surprise:
28 Likewise, just as it occurred in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building. 29 But on the day that Lot came out of Sod´om it rained fire and sulphur from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 The same way it will be on that day when the Son of man is to be revealed.
So we have crossed another milestone marker here. Upon Christ returning he must seal the 1,440,000 elect. The "four winds" are held back until that is accomplished, likely being facilitated by some minimal amount of stability in the world. I arrived, as prophesied, in 1992 and now as of May 2008 that number is sealed. Basically, it took 15 years. So now there is nothing to stop the destruction of the world. Now just at which point I will be "revealed" in some recognizable way, not sure. But were in that tiny little space now where the spiritual "great tribulation" has already begun and it will soon escalate and spill over into world events and politics.
But remember, once BTG is destroyed, it will be the point of no return. God's Day is said to be one of "thick gloom" and darkness. That means I won't be here giving you a recap of everything going on as it happens. Likely when BTG/Illuminati is destroyed, which will be sudden, and likewise the CIA is dismantled and the WTS and all other religions are made illegal and their funds confiscated, it is not likely there will be freedom of speech on the internet, certainly not on discussion boards. So we're approaching that "point of no return."
But this already happening. We can see the groundwork. Specifically, BTG will become hated by the UN and then destroyed and all of its activities exposed. That is actually being articulated on YouTube now. Everybody knows who the Illuminati is, how the IMF is manipulating things. It's common talk. But now, while the Illuminati had been good for the major nations, it is starting to fail. Now OIL is everything and unless the UN tries to overtake Iran, the world is in a huge pickle. Iran doesn't need a nuclear weapon to strike the US. They have the oil to ruin the US! And the only issue pushing "terrorism" now is religion. So it makes sense to separate religion and politics completely at this point to assure peace in the world. They can't change what people believe, but if you confiscate property and funding how will some of the major religions operate? Plus they have plenty proving these religions involve themselves into all kinds of things including commerce.
So just seeing clearly the major elements and entities that will play their roles is fulfilling! You know? We don't have to wonder who BTG is. We know who the scarlet colored wild beast is, perfectly described in scripture. We can see a global government via the UN makes sense. If the US economy falls and the US is facing starvation and riots they won't care if the US goes to the UN for a global solution. The US has already lost it's standing in the world. So the stage is set!!!
But get it right (correct) NOW. Because the internet certainly would be the first thing that will go down I would think. An easy accomplishment. Not that the net isn't manipulated and controlled anyway. They don't have to shut down the net entirely, just YouTube and discussion forums and groups, etc. The US is already giving immunity to Google and other search engines for revealing where people go and do searches. So personal rights are going out the window and they certainly will even moreso as the world spins into chaos for a short while until the "one world government" comes and saves the day. Only, big surprise, the Illuminati and all its wealth will be part of the spoils.
And there will be no 'warning'. Other than this anticipation. It will be like a raid. It will suddenly happen. Like a sting operation. But the propaganda is out there and they are gearing up for it.
So as I said, it's great news for those who already have their place of safety and are expecting all this and welcoming it. But for the rest of the world, they only see gloom and no way out of the coming collapse. Palpable fear about what is about to occur is now in place! Just as the Bible said.
But anyway, I allegedly will be at one point in the forefront. Maybe the 1,440,000 JIOR will come forth and declare me the messiah in some way. Maybe that's how I will be revealed. That is certainly suggested, that they and myself will be exposed, possibly a target for a final attack of Gog of Magog.
Now, that's a critical link as well. You see Gog of Magog relates to the white children of Magog who ended up desolating Judea during the Holocaust. Whiite supreemasy. Right now the Christian ID movement is totally anti-Jewish Banking establishment illuminati and are pushing for their demise even if they have to do it themselves. So if the Xian identity movement prevails, which is a racist organization, then the JIOR, the anointed ones will become the focus of their attack and thus we'll see another fulfillment of this in relation to Gog of Magog. We'll see. It's possible the UN will use the Christian Identity Movemennt sentiments to rid itself of the Illuminati influence over the UN and then in turn, turn around and label them as terrorists and dismantle them as well along with all other public forms of religion.
But it will happen suddenly and with the shut down of religious public discussion I won't be able to give everybody my: "See, I TOLD YOU SO!" speech. So I have to sort of do it now.
Things are winding down. The quiet before the storm. The Day of Jehovah, a day of thick gloom and darkness and clouds... is imminently upon us. OKAY...maybe I know something I'm not divulging. Maybe. So I'm just hinting that it will be all over in a day. There will be no light once the critical great tribulation breaks out globally.
JC
jc.
can you help me understand these stories?
i want to know why these are in the bible.
JC
Can you help me understand these stories? I want to know why these are in the bible. Do they fortell anything happening now?
Thanks!
These are historical events that are there to help us understand how Jehovah deals with certain situations and what people did. None of these are prophetic. They are there for face value from my point of view.
But in the case of Lots daughters, there was an aphrodiac known in ancient prostitution that caused unconsciousness and convulsive orgasm. It must have been thought that under this drug the impregnation was by demons and so the child born was then sacrificed and killed. Consider it a potent Viagra that causes unconsciousness. It was mixed with wine. Those in Sodom must have been aware of it and used it for sexual enhancement and so Lot's daughters used it on him. So they knew when they got him drunk on the wine he'd pass out and then go into convulsions and involuntary orgasm, without him knowing about it. That's how they got pregnant and Lot wasn't aware of it.
The WTS suggested, which I suppose might be considered, that Lot knew these men were gay and would not be interested in his daughters. They may not have been that attractive or perhaps were obese. The context that their prospects for marriage were slim underscores their desperation to get pregnant by their own father after their mother was out of the way.
But how about THIS ONE:
8 “And it must occur in all the land,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “[that] two parts in it are what will be cut off [and] expire; and as for the third [part], it will be left remaining in it. 9 And I shall certainly bring the third [part] through the fire; and I shall actually refine them as in the refining of silver, and examine them as in the examining of gold. It, for its part, will call upon my name, and I, for my part, will answer it. I will say, ‘It is my people,’ and it, in its turn, will say, ‘Jehovah is my God.’”
This is about the HOLOCAUST, the first "great tribulation" where two thirds of the Jews would be exterminated for the sins of their forefathers.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/h-statistics.htm
Statistics of The Holocaust
Country | Initial Jewish Population | Estimated % Killed | Estimated Killed | Number of Survivors |
POLAND | 3,300,000 | 91% | 3,000,000 | 300,000 |
USSR | 3,020,000 | 36% | 1,100,000 | 1,920,000 |
HUNGARY | 800,000 | 74% | 596,000 | 204,000 |
GERMANY | 566,000 | 36% | 200,000 | 366,000 |
FRANCE | 350,000 | 22% | 77,320 | 272,680 |
ROMANIA | 342,000 | 84% | 287,000 | 55,000 |
AUSTRIA | 185,000 | 35% | 65,000 | 120,000 |
LITHUANIA | 168,000 | 85% | 143,000 | 25,000 |
NETHERLANDS | 140,000 | 71% | 100,000 | 40,000 |
BOHEMIA MORAVIA | 118,310 | 60% | 71,150 | 47,160 |
LATVIA | 95,000 | 84% | 80,000 | 15,000 |
SLOVAKIA | 88,950 | 80% | 71,000 | 17,950 |
YUGOSLAVIA | 78,000 | 81% | 63,300 | 14,700 |
GREECE | 77,380 | 87% | 67,000 | 10,380 |
BELGIUM | 65,700 | 45% | 28,900 | 36,800 |
ITALY | 44,500 | 17% | 7,680 | 36,820 |
BULGARIA | 50,000 | 0% | 50,000 | |
DENMARK | 7,800 | .8% | 60 | 7,740 |
ESTONIA | 4,500 | 44% | 2,000 | 2,500 |
LUXEMBOURG | 3,500 | 55% | 1,950 | 1,550 |
FINLAND | 2,000 | .03% | 7 | 1,993 |
NORWAY | 1,700 | 45% | 762 | 938 |
TOTAL | 9,508,340 | 63% | 5,962,129 | 3,546,211 |
Rounding off, 63% is approximately 2/3rds lost. But the Holocaust parallels the specific nature of the temple prostitution the Jewish women practiced including:
1) Ethnic cleansing. They, like the Canaanites aspired to be whiter so their dark children were targets for infanticide. They prostituted with the Babylonians and others who were dark complected so they were having these mixed children, which they then put into kilns and burned to death. So part of the theme of the Holocaust involved ovens, burning children to death and genocide/ethnic cleansing.
2) When the babies were being burned up in the kiln using limestone, smoke would rise up over the city, so when you saw the smoke then you knew a child was being sacrificed. It was so much that Jerusalem was called the "city of bloodshed". Jehovah promised he would bring this upon the children of the Jews, only many fold. Thus the black smoke coming out of the smoke stacks from the crematoriums at the death camps was a sign of the death of thousands who had just arrived by train. This mimicks that aspect of the paganism.
3) But even the drug I told you about that Lot's daughters used to make him unconscious and go into involuntary ejacuations involved asphyxiation which is also associated with heightened sexual sensation. So the description of this type of prostitution involved the men gasping for breath. Thus this aphrodesiac caused asphyxiation and then unconsciousness. So that aspect of asphyxiation was paralleled by the gas chambers, where the Jews were asphyxiated.
4) This process was addicting and it turned out that the men at first were given gifts to draw them in. Once they got fully addicted to the sex and this drug then the prostitutes demanded they sacrifice their children. So the children from the surrounding cities of the pagans wolud come into Jerusalem and be sacrificed. So much so that it denuded the children in the land due to this prostitution. So likewise the TRANSPORTS. Just as the Jews were deporting children from the surrounding areas into Jerusalem so that it became a death camp which then burned them up, so the Jews during the Holocaust were deported from the surrounding countries into the death camps.
ALL this was a sign, though, for the nations. For if Jehovah exacted this penalty to the Jews and indeed carried it out as his word says, then certainly he would do the same at the second great tribulation that occurs for the world. That's why I believe that two-thirds of the world's population will not live to enjoy the millennium. One third will be killed immediately and a second third will survive Armageddon but die of old age. Only a third of today's population will be part of the full 1000-year rule of Christ. Just as in the case of the Jews; two-thirds are lost and third saved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZNCO_E1ufs
Now, in reference to your last inquiry about how this man who was married to his mother-in-law is turned over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that the spirit can be saved during the Lord's Day. That is generally the same principal as the Holocaust. That is, a little leaven ferments the whole lump. The Jews were able to be saved because two-thirds were exterminated. Thus those in the congregation who were tolerating this and not condemning it would jeopardize their chances of being part of the first resurrection. So in order to assure this, they needed to dismiss this man from the congregation so that they remained clean. This is expressed as turning this one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that is, casting that person off to Gehenna, thus by making that judgment not incurring that person's sin so that they could be resurrected later during the end-times. It is the same principle of the Jews having this buildguilt from the pagan prostitution. By allowing the destruction of the flesh of two thirds of the population, then one third could be saved. Thus that person tolerated in the congregation condemned all in the congregation so that they lost their seats in the kingdom. By removing that man, then they were holy again and holy spirit could accept them into the kingdom at the first resurrection. In case you hadn't thought about that explanation.
At any rate, the HOLOCAUST was to be a message to the world that he doesn't fool around. If he banished and kills the angels for disobedience, if he punished the Jews for what their parents had done, then he certainly isn't going soft on the WTS GB who have become apostate or the world who thinks there is no God or who want to do their own thing without regard to the Creator. No. They will be destroyed and/or punished just as he has always done. It's sort of a guarantee.
So it is too late now to get into the kingdom of the 1,440,000. Not sure if it is too late to try to get into the two-thirds that survive Armageddon. It depends on what you are responding to. If you think the world is ending and the great tribulation has begun then that would be the wrong motivation and you'd be lost, unless you were already marked to live. But once it is very clear the great tribulation has begun based upon world events, critically when he UN turns on religion and the Illuminati/BTG then it will be too late. But the good news is that people would have already been judged and placed in one of the four categories:
1. The anointed 1,440,000 king priest group. BEST SCENARIO EVER.
2. Chosen to enjoy the millennium, 1/3 of world population. GOOD SCENARIO.
3. Chosen to survive Armageddon and get a glimpse of the new order, dying of old age. BETTER SCENARIO THAN #4.
4. Chosen to be killed at Armageddon. WORST SCENARIO.
Everything is happening just as was prophesied. Everything! But you have to open your eyes to see it.
JC
hello my friend,.
i was reading through a few of your past posts in an effort to get to know the christ better and i have a question.
according to one of your posts from 2003 you tell us that being publically ridiculed or disbelieved by apostates is a fullfilment of prophesy.
Hello my friend,
I was reading through a few of your past posts in an effort to get to know the christ better and I have a question. According to one of your posts from 2003 you tell us that being publically ridiculed or disbelieved by apostates is a fullfilment of prophesy. Can you tell me how much longer you need to be disbelieved before this fullfilment is complete?
Thanks
Ash
Not much longer. I have a general "date" focus now on 2011 AD, with conditions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R711yQ0YTRs
But probably more critical is that after the door is closed, which was closed May 2008, then some event or series of events will cause those who first rejected the messiah who preached to them in the "broad ways" (XJW discussion boards) would suddenly believe. So really very soon. Technically the great tribulation has begun from the spiritual standpoint. Luke 13:
24 “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell YOU , will seek to get in but will not be able, 25 when once the householder has got up and locked the door, and YOU start to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Sir, open to us.’ But in answer he will say to YOU , ‘I do not know where YOU are from.’ 26 Then YOU will start saying, ‘We ate and drank in front of you, and you taught in our broad ways.’ 27 But he will speak and say to YOU , ‘I do not know where YOU are from. Get away from me, all YOU workers of unrighteousness!’ 28 There is where [ YOUR ] weeping and the gnashing of [ YOUR ] teeth will be, when YOU see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves thrown outside.
I already see a different curiosity level now that the complete package is in place: the WTS "subliminal art", the "sign of the son of man" etc. Few people contradict that leaven in bread represents a sinful body, etc.
So generally, sometime between today and 2011 is when I'm expecting an increase in recognition/acceptance of the reality of me being the Biblical messiah.
But let me give you a little test/survey if I will. Tell me what do YOU think the below imagery is about? Just say you dismiss my idea of what this is. What would be your take on this image?
I'm just curious what someone having this pointed out to them would think? What message is it supposed to convey do you think? What comes to your mind?
And do you think JWs should be "concerned" about it or wonder why its there?
Thanks.
This directly relates from my side of the room the acceptance of me as the messiah or at least the acceptance that the messiah would appear in the body of an Ethiopian eunuch who lived the life of the prodigal son. So this confirms my "acceptance" or pre-acceptance in this form by some, and it is important enough to include in this "subliminal", actually cryptic image since the imagery is not mistaken for anything else but a face.
WHY is this here, do you think? Thanks, again!
JC
discuss please...at length..and add youtube videos and quotes that go on for pages...thanks!
Hi Hortensia.
Your vid was interesting. Someone presumed that 490 years needed to be increased by 70 years because that is the number of jubilees in 490 years. Thus adding 490+70 to get 560 years. That was NEW.
I count the jubilee as the 1st year of every 49 and so every 490 years is 10 jubilees. Ten periods of 49 years each. So that in a WEEK of 490-year days, a period of 3430 years, you have 70 jubilees. Thus 1947 is the 70th jubilee. 3430 years goes all the way back to the time of Moses, dating the Exodus to 1386 BCE.
1947 is the best date now to calculate Bible prophecy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAWWPyDwKs
Thanks for the VIDS! Well done.
JC