Posts by cyberjesus

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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 5

by Simon in

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".

i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.

it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.

cyberjesus

thanks for this soooo helpful site

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 1 of 5

by DNCall in

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friends

startfragment.

prompted by the thread started by wha happened (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/179005/1/a-good-friend-of-mine-was-dfd-this-week), i thought i would introduce myself and tell my story.. i am frank kavelin.

my wife barbara and i were recently disfellowshipped for apostasy.

cyberjesus

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 3 of 5

by DNCall in

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startfragment.

by the 1990s it became necessary for me to seek work outside of music.

barbara, who had to help support our family in the mid-1980s, was working as a legal secretary and suggested i consider doing the same.

cyberjesus

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 2 of 5

by DNCall in

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startfragment.

i was one year old at the time of my fathers conversion.

although my three older sisters were required to attend the meetings, they never accepted the teachings.

cyberjesus

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 4 of 5

by DNCall in

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startfragment.

even though i didnt have the title of elder, i was still active in my work at bethel and the congregation used me as much as possible.

when the congregation recommended that i once again serve as an elder, one elder raised the objection that that barbara was a low-hour publisher.

cyberjesus

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 5 of 5

by DNCall in

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friends

startfragment.

during the appeal period of one week we sent the following letter to approximately 22 of our oldest and closest friends.

im including it here because it conveys how we feel at present, looking back over the half-century of our lives.. dear ____,.

cyberjesus

thanks. this goes back up

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Excellent quote from "Millions Now Living Will Never Die!"

by sd-7 in

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...i know that seems hard to believe.

but hey, who doesn't love the happy prospect of never dying?

certainly the folks in 1920 who received this book are still looking forward to that day with bright, beaming eyes!

cyberjesus

good job

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Long time lurker, first time poster

by Miss Chievous in

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cyberjesus

welcome

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this is gunna be a long road to truth, looking at both sides. and i will need help

by Aussie Oz in

convinced as i 99% am that the wt society is all we have concluded, i feel i owe to myself and my children to be 100% convinced before actively trying to extract them.. first up i must say, doctrine is of little interest to me.

what gets me is the provable wrong-doing, the hypocrasy, cover-ups, double standards, you know what i mean i think.. on that sort of stuff, i feel it right to look at the counter arguments and proofs offered to explain the wt side of things, both by wt soc themselves and apologists.. therein lies the daunting road.

i grew up in the 'truth', so i never got to make sure of all things before getting baptised.

cyberjesus

You are doing fine and your take on things is correct. I strongly suggest to read Crisis of consience by Ray Franz. Thats a must read book. It will help you a great deal since it tells you from a loving positions why the wts is wrong in lying to their followers

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If theres no God why the earth, the brain the universe? (Atheist and Agnostics)

by cyberjesus in

(this question is directed to all the atheist and agnostics in the forum only).

i like most of the people here believed in a god who created us and the earth.

it was easy to explain the reason on many things like the degrees of inclination of the earth, the existance of water in our planet, the existance of an atmosphere, they joy in all the senses, the clear superiority of the human beens versus all other animals, the posesion of a brain who attempts to explain itself.

cyberjesus

Hmm Also we know of the circumstances necessary to reproduce life in the "universe" our our planet, but we dont know of other circumstances of other type of life and their requirements outside "our universe of knowledge"

And if the Universe is that old there might have been life in other planets already and might have even gone extint millions of years ago. And here we are worrying about if should celebrate birthdays or not :-)

How do you cope with the fact that we are so insignificant and that our life is really a sigh of air? Weird to me.