Posts by simon17

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Scholastic Dishonesty - June 2012 Awake - Jewish Exile Timeline

by Ultimate Reality in

the june 2012 awake has another article on the exile of the jews by the babylonians.

once again the wt quotes dishonestly.. .

from page 14:.

simon17

I Love this Paragraph Under "What History Reveals"

The Bible identifies Nebuchadnezzar as
being the king of Babylon about the time of
Jerusalem’s destruction. Archaeological evidence
supports the Bible’s testimony about
his existence. A cameo made of onyx stone
is on display in Florence, Italy. It bears an
inscription that says in part: “In honour of
Merodach, his lord, Nebuchadnezzar, king of
Babylon, in his life-time had this made.” Nebuchadnezzar ruled from 624 to 582 BCE.

Lol... lets show that history agrees with us.

Step 1: Say that archaelogy agrees with us

Step 2: Give an unrelated quote

Step 3: Reiterate our unsupported conclusion directly after it. Maybe by being next to a real quote will make people think the nonsense conclusion is also real.

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Scholastic Dishonesty - June 2012 Awake - Jewish Exile Timeline

by Ultimate Reality in

the june 2012 awake has another article on the exile of the jews by the babylonians.

once again the wt quotes dishonestly.. .

from page 14:.

simon17

Thats pretty bad. Thanks for tracking down the quote, I appreciate it!

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Memorial - Why do i keep going?

by maisha in

every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.

i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.

but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.

simon17

I will go for my family, but they don't shun me or anything so that makes more sense than your situation.

However, its not the worst meeting to go to. Its like the only positive meeting of the year. 364 days of the year its all guilt and fear and "you're not doing enough!!!!!". But for one day, its more like "oh, you went to the memorial, that is a wonderful thing you have done to show you care for god. COme back next week and give up your life for us so then we can guilt you to death"

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Be Honest---Describe your most prevalent feeling as a witness in ONE WORD!

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

lets's go!!.

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suffocating.

simon17

jealous...

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IF we erased all history... WHAT "truth" would emerge in time?

by AK - Jeff in

i posit that if we put mankind into a state of suspended animation, erased his memory, and removed all traces of recorded human thinking over the ages, that given a few thousand years after his wake-up science and it's principles would have been rediscovered, reaffirmed.

all the sound principles would be once again discovered and leveraged into powerful technologies along lines similar to those we see today.

in other words, gravity, thermodynamics, astromony, magnetism, and physics of the universe would eventually be considered 'true', and verifible.

simon17

Truth would assert itself in science, but in religion, it would be different gods, myths, ideas.

We don't need the exploratory hypothesis of this thread to do this though.

Things like religion HAVE NOT asserted themselves in today's world. Hence, we can deduce that it is unlikely that any ultimate truth is in them.

Of course technically you could say the same about something like evolution, but it has had only 150 years to assert its position compared to religion's many thousands and is gaining in acceptance every year. Humanity only has got around to accepting that slavery is immoral in the last century, if that. Perhaps humans will tend toward the moral truth that raising animals in hell to be consumed is wrong, but that still seems a far ways off at best.

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IF we erased all history... WHAT "truth" would emerge in time?

by AK - Jeff in

i posit that if we put mankind into a state of suspended animation, erased his memory, and removed all traces of recorded human thinking over the ages, that given a few thousand years after his wake-up science and it's principles would have been rediscovered, reaffirmed.

all the sound principles would be once again discovered and leveraged into powerful technologies along lines similar to those we see today.

in other words, gravity, thermodynamics, astromony, magnetism, and physics of the universe would eventually be considered 'true', and verifible.

simon17

Well basically,we're saying the world would be exactly the same. The accepted truths of today (math, science) would be accepted truth. And disputed things (like religion, best government, laws) would still be disputed.

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What the heck happened in the stock market today?

by aSphereisnotaCircle in

jw
friends

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simon17

Goldman Sachs announced today that this is the best opportunity to buy stocks in a decade. Did they just signal a market top and want all the pigeons err suckers err investors to jump in again or will this rally continue.

Besides, i guess... 3 months ago? Or three years ago?

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Strategically, the GB should accept 587

by I Want to Believe in

right now, the 587/607 is a major weak link; doctrines can be argued in circles for days, but the overwhelming evidence for 587 is damning to their entire theology, and it can be found with very little effort.

however, if they just bite the bullet and "new light" a 587 date for jerusalem's destruction it solves a lot of their problems:.

-removes their main weak secular point of argument.

simon17

I hate to disagree. Let sleeping dogs lie. 99% of everyone just blindly accepts the given "explanations" just like they do for anti-evolutionary information.

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Attended a JW funeral the other day

by uk_ex_jw in

i had an account on here sometime ago but forgot the login, but i often read the site.. a long-term friend of mine, a jw, asked me to go to his grandmothers jw funeral a few weeks ago.. i was hesitant obviously.

i haven't been to a kh in over 5 years.. i am not df/da.

i decided to quit in 2007 following my failed marriage to a jw.. the person who died was a very well-respected jw pioneer.

simon17

Yeah Poztate, its pretty incredible. No need to eulogize the individual at all. The original poster's estimation that it was 60% doctrinal, 40% about the individual would actually be quite a personalized talk for the witnesses.

I went to a funeral a few months ago and it was probably 95% doctrinal. Besides "xxxxx believed..." the person was scarcely mentioned at all outside the first 5 minutes. Very sad.

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5 Mind Blowing Ways Your Memory Plays Tricks on You

by poopsiecakes in

jw
friends

http://www.cracked.com/article_18704_5-mind-blowing-ways-your-memory-plays-tricks-you.html.

really interesting read - i would copy/paste the whole thing but there are a lot of pictures and a video.

a couple of things that stood out to me:.

simon17

Pretty neat. I remember doing the Gorilla thing and I certainly missed it. I definitely knew that the picture with the crowds in Tieneman square was wrong. There' s a picture on there with Abe Lincoln saying photos have been faked to convince people he had a beard... hmm, I'm pretty sure he DID have a beard, no?