Quick, someone check with the Pyramids.. Are they 'pointing' towards the new planet's spot in the sky where it will become visible??
Hey, I think we're onto something here folks.. The Pyramids seem to be in agreement...
hey guys, gleaned this this morning.
anyone got any input?.
the only "sign" of christ's return: the 10th planet & 2003. by:- fat jack mccracken .
Quick, someone check with the Pyramids.. Are they 'pointing' towards the new planet's spot in the sky where it will become visible??
Hey, I think we're onto something here folks.. The Pyramids seem to be in agreement...
just saw a promo for dateline.
" another church sex scandal and its not the catholics".
looks good cant wait.
The promo actually said that?? Cool..
Ohh, this is gonna be good.. The JW's lumped in with the Catholics!!!
i was raised in a very religiously strict christian home, and have been presbyterian or baptist my whole life.
i have heard nothing but bad things about the jw's.
just recently i have gotten very interested in in learning more about jw, and possibly becoming one.
Hi solosecret,
Why do you think your family would be upset if you joined the JW's?
Also, would they be upset if you joined the Mormons, or other 'fringe' religions?
I think it is most important to hear both sides before you make a decision.. Goto the hall, start a bible study, and let the JW's you study with, and even the elders know that you are looking at the 'opposing' viewpoint; I.E. from the apostates/DF'd ones; and ask questions of both sides.. This is a great place to ask questions of the 'opposing' side, as alot of people here are ex-jw's..
NEVER BE AFRAID of asking ANY question, I would encourage you to poke around.. The bible clearly states that "... In no respect should you be freightened by your opponents..." (Phil 1:27-29 contains the entire quote) -- In fact, this comes straight out of a quote from the Witness' Reasoning book (Page 119, under the heading of Encouragement for Persons facing PERSECUTION for doing God's will)
The bible also states that you should 'test' for yourself what is true, and hold on to truth...
Obviously, by the above bible scripture, which is quoted in their own literature, you certainly should NOT be afraid of getting opposing views.. If you think about it, hearing only one side of any argument does not lend itself very well to making an informed decision. This is true in all aspects of life, not just religion.. So, if your relatives are really gonna be upset if you join the Witnesses, I think you owe it to them to sit down, and ask them why..
Biblically, as well, you owe it to yourself and Jesus/God to see
both sides... The witnesses should certainly welcome the chance to prove to you why the apostates are wrong from the bible, I'm sure.. In fact, the witnesses should welcome the chance to speak with apostates and, as the bible states, bring a lost one back into the fold...
And hopefully the converse will also be true.. All the ex-jw's here will answer your questions as well..
It will then be up to you to 'test' for yourself what is 'true', and make a determination based on those tests..
Oh, one comment.. Just because your family may or may not apporve of you becoming a witness does not neccisarily prove that any religion is being "persecuted" for doing God's will, and thus is a sign that they are indeed the one true religion...
I'm sure that you would get a similiar reaction from your family if you decided to join some other religions as well.. Thus, it isn't a sign that any religion is more correct than any other, as this can apply to many religions, nor is it a sign of persecution.. Would you call it persecution if you wanted to join a satanic cult and your family expressed their concern?
Good luck on your quest....
ok...like i said it's in the may 2002 km outline for may 20:.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km1.jpg?bcqskg9ak9nt6cke.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/21283b65/bc/share/km2.jpg?bcqskg9ajchvrrkc.
Hmmm.. Maybe that is why they are encouraging brotherhood with only the locals..
Sooner or later, people are gonna start realizing that the 'spiritual' food everyone is getting is custom a custom formula depending on the area you are in unless you start 'seperating' the brotherhood :-)
does anyone as yet have the full number of and titles of this years new releases from the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convenions?
Ah, thanks for straitening that one out for me..
For a minute, I thought I blinked and missed the flicker of new light...
does anyone as yet have the full number of and titles of this years new releases from the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convenions?
"Perhaps there will be a new prophetic book in the summer of 2003"
What, is Armageddon on hold again? No-One told me.. I thought it was just around the corner...
jesus christ said these telling words.
and he supplemented them by also saying that his followers would be persecuted as he was persecuted.
jesus's disciples were persecuted in the first century by a bitter wave of roman persecution.
Ah yes but when the JW's continue to spread false words about other religions, it's not that the JW's are persecuting them, it's that Jehovah has brought favor on the organization, and exposed the wrong doing of the others (accuracy, false allegations etc) not withstanding..
Ohhh how Jehovah hates it when there are uneven scales...
i posted this on another thread but i know it got buried....i thought it was an important that the jw's on this board hear this.. do you think that bill or any silentlamb would have to resort to such public measures if the wtbts had listened in the first place.
think about it...these people are putting a lot on the line...do you think they would be going to such lengths to be heard if the wtbts had responded to there more "discreat" pleas for help?
you are only seeing the tip of the iceburg...they have been trying to get the wtbs to not just hear them but listen to them for years.
FRUSR8TD,
The cannot be running scared... The reasoning book (and the bible) says so...
Notice the 4th paragraph on page 119..
For them to be scared of anything you say would be proof of certain 'destruction' for them.. Therefor, it's not them that are scared, but rather you who is scared of them -- oh, just to add some background, this is found in the reasoning book under the heading of "Encouragement -- For persons facing PERSECUTION because of doing God's will --"
P.S. This bible scripture certainly applies, the JW's just have the PERSECUTOR/PERSECUTEE reversed.. Well, unless you believe that god's will was to allow/support/cover up/protect all the pedophiles and do nothing for the victims!!!
one of the characteristics of a cult is deceptive recruting practices.
i would like to ask some specific questions about the accuracy of information that i have gathered thus far.. 1) how much do the jws stress on the usage of theocratic warfare.
in the field service?
"The problem that I have with theocratic warfare is who decides exactly is deserving of the truth?"
If you are not a baptized witness, you don't deserve the truth.. After all, you are still attached to Satan, and haven't given yourself to Jehovah (or more accuratly 'his' organization) yet...
It also depends on the individual witness, and where the witness thinks how far along you are in the indoctrination process.. (Are you ready for 'solid' food yet or are you still at the 'milk' phase)?
The more 'solid' food you can digest the more likely you are to be told the real truth...
i posted this on another thread but i know it got buried....i thought it was an important that the jw's on this board hear this.. do you think that bill or any silentlamb would have to resort to such public measures if the wtbts had listened in the first place.
think about it...these people are putting a lot on the line...do you think they would be going to such lengths to be heard if the wtbts had responded to there more "discreat" pleas for help?
you are only seeing the tip of the iceburg...they have been trying to get the wtbs to not just hear them but listen to them for years.
FRUSR8TD,
You made a good plea to the JW's up till you mentioned the word THINK.. That's where you lost them... [8>]