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  What did President Trump say about Sweden?

  by kpop in

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  this you will never see on the mainstream media.

  before you comment watch the whole video.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

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  Is it fair to say that trump could be correct in that it's not what Sweden expected as far a integration into society goes?

  Well, "Sweden" is a country with many diverse views. I would agree that there is a growing realization that the "open border" policy in Sweden is not sustainable which is why Sweden has taken steps to close its borders, for instance by re-introducing passport checks at the Danish border.

  I commend using European experience, including Sweden, when discussing immigration and it's consequences in the US. However, I don't think it supports Trumps narrative that easily (see my previous post) when you look at the actual crime statistics and know something about Sweden. It might come as a surprise but I am not particular pro-immigration from Muslim-majority countries and definitely against unchecked immigration.

  The main problem re. Trump is that the things he says, like "the thing that happened the other night in Sweden", shows that he confabulate news programs with real events... that is a kind of behavior that I would be very worried about in one of my parents.
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  What did President Trump say about Sweden?

  by kpop in

  1. social
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  this you will never see on the mainstream media.

  before you comment watch the whole video.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

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  bohm

  freemindfade:

  I think what the Swedes are trying to do (help all refugees) is commendable from a humanitarian perspective, however I think it is not sustainable and will lead to problems --- first and foremost an increase in crime and social issues (though I would caution that we rely on official crime statistics from the main sources because there is a lot of misinformation out there), however also in the longer run with the predictable backlash, ghettoization, etc. Sweden is special in that way compared to Norway and Denmark for having a more organized/extreme right (likely due to historical reason; Germany never invaded Sweden) and the famous PC press code; things I doubt will mix well.

  What is being missed is that any comparison of Sweden and the US has to take into account that relative to Sweden the US hardly takes in refugees at all.. you can point to Sweden and say: Those are the kinds of problems that taking in immigrants will lead to, however, you can also point to Sweden and say: If you double the number of refugees, you are still nowhere near Swedish levels at all, and Swedens problems are still not that bad relatively speaking (compare Swedish murder statistics against those in the US).

  Does that sound like complete lunacy?
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  JW_Rogue: You mean that the CIA/FBI is colluding with the Chinese government in order to spread the narrative that Russians are using fake news to influence the US election?
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  What did President Trump say about Sweden?

  by kpop in

  1. social
  2. current

  this you will never see on the mainstream media.

  before you comment watch the whole video.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

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  bohm

  kpop:

  About your 4chan link alleging censorship.

  The daily mail article is about an ongoing murder investigation/trial in Sweden. Since the mail article contains details about the case, such as the suspect's name and speculations about his age, which could affect the trial the daily mail decided to block the article in Sweden. This is not based on reporting from the Swedish media but according to the daily mail itself:

  http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2446/daily-mail-blocks-sweden-for-legal-reasons.html

  Another way to see this is because the daily mail redirects to a "site not found" page rather than simply given an error/warning which would be more likely in the case of blocking by the Swedish government. Also, government censorship in Sweden of news would attract much more attention.

  I am not trying to defend everything Swedish/pro immigrant, but you have to be aware there is a sea of misinformation out there, and often the people who are pushing it are not very nice people.
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  Cooked food and the evolution of man.

  by Crazyguy in

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  i was watching a documentary on the development of man and they were indicating that the eating of high protein diet was helping man to grow a bigger brain and then went on to say that cooking the food was the breakthrough on how our brain became bigger then other animals that ate a lot of protein.

  does this make any sense to you and what science if any shows cooked protein is better in any way over raw?

  your thoughts..

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  bohm

  "if you like the animal, why are you eating its food?"
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  bohm

  No, I am not a Muslim and don't have a Muslim family. It is very strange to be asked that question given my history on this site (atheist and critic of Islam).

  I don't oppose Islam despite being generally on the left politically, but exactly because of it.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  Simon: Let me guess, we can no longer use the term "Sweden" unless there has been a poll of all Swedes no alive and they all agree 100%.

  I never said that...

  My claim is that if someone wishes to say Swedes (or the Swedish authorities, whatever) don't feel outraged over rape that must be backed up by concrete evidence. Europes most pro-active rape reporting laws suggests differently.

  
  
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

  1. social
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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  Simon: Two things. Firstly, we can't discuss the incidence of rape based on single instances but must do so in view of the actual statistics. This is confounded by the fact Sweden defines rape broadly and so to compare against other countries we must rely on studies of rape incidents that take this difference in definitions into account. What studies would you recommend?
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  LUHE: my issue isn't with ordinary Swedes but, rather, with Swedish media (and authorities).

  1) that wasn't what you said. You wrote: "it seems Sweden doesn't want people to feel outrage [of rape]."

  2) You claim Swedish authorities don't feel outrage over rape?! What evidence do you have to support that claim? I can cite the strong focus on reporting of rape in Sweden in support of the idea that the Swedish authorities actually care quite a lot about rape.

  BTW, I am not SIRI. Read primary sources yourself, make concrete claims that can be discussed and then let's have a discussion about those claims rather than a million vague questions and speculations you throw around in place of an actual argument.
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  What is your opinion of the news media?

  by minimus in

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  to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

  most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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  bohm

  Swedish media have a policy of remaining silent about the ethnicity and immigrant status of criminals

  In some cases, not in others. Please inform yourself before spreading mis-information.

  First, this seems like an effort to brush any concerns about mismanaged migration and multiculturalist policies under the carpet. If Sweden released details of ethnicity and immigrant status, I wonder what these data would show?

  Have you looked at the literature on Swedish crime and ethnicity? I am just going to guess that you haven't because it would be the first time you had informed yourself about a subject you had an opinion about.

  it seems Sweden doesn't want people to feel outrage [of rape].

  You just made that up didn't you?. Stop lying about the Swedish people.

  no, there's no whataboutery from me

  Watch Russian news. "Putin invaded Crimea. Yes, but whatabout..."